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Knoebels | Flying Turns | In house construction
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rollermonkey
Strata Poster
Re: "Flying Turns" - Flying Turns for Knoebels
Well, any takers that this once "New For 2009" coaster will open in 2012?
Well, any takers that this once "New For 2009" coaster will open in 2012?
Re: "Flying Turns" - Flying Turns for Knoebels
^I guess there's a chance it can open for a week or two during summer. Then they find out something is wrong with it and have to close it again...
^I guess there's a chance it can open for a week or two during summer. Then they find out something is wrong with it and have to close it again...
Re: "Flying Turns" - Flying Turns for Knoebels
It is ridiculous I agree. I've said it before, but this entire thing is such an epic fail. If this was any other park it would have had so much more of a bashing for this whole ridiculous farce, but because it's a "nice, family run" park and they're "preserving coaster history" (or whatever), it escapes any major criticism.
I loved the place by the way, but I'm not letting that cloud my judgement of what an absolute **** up this whole thing has been.
It is ridiculous I agree. I've said it before, but this entire thing is such an epic fail. If this was any other park it would have had so much more of a bashing for this whole ridiculous farce, but because it's a "nice, family run" park and they're "preserving coaster history" (or whatever), it escapes any major criticism.
I loved the place by the way, but I'm not letting that cloud my judgement of what an absolute **** up this whole thing has been.
Re: "Flying Turns" - Flying Turns for Knoebels
At first the trains were tearing up the track. Then I think they had issues with the trains connecting safely and comfortably with the lift hills (I think there are three lifts).
The biggest issue is that it's being hand built using in-house carpenters and fag packet physics. Basically, it's being built like old coasters were, only it has to meet modern day regulations and rider comfort expectations. I think it's more of a hobby for Dick Knoebel and his team than a typical coaster project. I'm sure the Gravity Group could have whipped one up in an afternoon and built it by supper time, but they wanted to do it the old fashioned way... Unfortunately without the experience and knowledge of the people who used to make them :lol:
At first the trains were tearing up the track. Then I think they had issues with the trains connecting safely and comfortably with the lift hills (I think there are three lifts).
The biggest issue is that it's being hand built using in-house carpenters and fag packet physics. Basically, it's being built like old coasters were, only it has to meet modern day regulations and rider comfort expectations. I think it's more of a hobby for Dick Knoebel and his team than a typical coaster project. I'm sure the Gravity Group could have whipped one up in an afternoon and built it by supper time, but they wanted to do it the old fashioned way... Unfortunately without the experience and knowledge of the people who used to make them :lol:
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Anonymous
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Re: "Flying Turns" - Flying Turns for Knoebels
^ But they do that on the newer ones in steel as well, at least Bobbahn at Heide park go all the way up to about 90°.
The only way for them to get it not to do that is to add a friction brake to some of the wheels to reduce the speed...
^ But they do that on the newer ones in steel as well, at least Bobbahn at Heide park go all the way up to about 90°.
The only way for them to get it not to do that is to add a friction brake to some of the wheels to reduce the speed...
Intricks
Strata Poster
Re: "Flying Turns" - Flying Turns for Knoebels
^ I dont think they can do that due to the wheels. When I was at PPP in '07, they were teasing the ride for the following year. The guy talked about the reason why it was so quiet (when my friends and I were standing in line to go up to the station to hear all this, you didnt hear the ride going until the train was right next to you. He had to tell us where to look so we would know where the train was) was due to the wheels being of different material than your standard wheel. He compared it to a hard gel Roller blade wheel. I cant remember the reason why they chose that type of wheel though...
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^ I dont think they can do that due to the wheels. When I was at PPP in '07, they were teasing the ride for the following year. The guy talked about the reason why it was so quiet (when my friends and I were standing in line to go up to the station to hear all this, you didnt hear the ride going until the train was right next to you. He had to tell us where to look so we would know where the train was) was due to the wheels being of different material than your standard wheel. He compared it to a hard gel Roller blade wheel. I cant remember the reason why they chose that type of wheel though...
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Re: "Flying Turns" - Flying Turns for Knoebels
^Wouldn't stop them using bearings with some sort of friction increaser inside. It wouldn't make the train any louder (it's mostly the wheels on the track), but it would still slow the train down a bit/stop the train getting up so much speed.
^Wouldn't stop them using bearings with some sort of friction increaser inside. It wouldn't make the train any louder (it's mostly the wheels on the track), but it would still slow the train down a bit/stop the train getting up so much speed.
bizarrofan10
Hyper Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
Anyone know if this or Black Diamond will ever pan out for the summer of 2012?
Anyone know if this or Black Diamond will ever pan out for the summer of 2012?
rollermonkey
Strata Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
20 seconds of research would have told you that Black Diamond opened in 2011.
As for Flying Turns? See Ben's comment above.
bizarrofan10 said:
20 seconds of research would have told you that Black Diamond opened in 2011.
As for Flying Turns? See Ben's comment above.
bizarrofan10
Hyper Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
Thanks, Ben. But any insider information/educated guess would have been appreciated.
Rollermonkey: I found Black Diamond under coaster-count and coastercounter, but surprsingly it is not listed under rides on the Knoebels website. I'm not sure why, but thanks for your help.
Thanks, Ben. But any insider information/educated guess would have been appreciated.
Rollermonkey: I found Black Diamond under coaster-count and coastercounter, but surprsingly it is not listed under rides on the Knoebels website. I'm not sure why, but thanks for your help.
