Knoebels | Flying Turns | In house construction
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bmac
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Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
When I went to the park earlier this year there were a few mechanics running around checking the brakes and lift chains. I managed to get the attention of one of them and asked what they were doing on the other side and he just bluntly said "Storage Shed."
When I went to the park earlier this year there were a few mechanics running around checking the brakes and lift chains. I managed to get the attention of one of them and asked what they were doing on the other side and he just bluntly said "Storage Shed."
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
GCI recently held their own TED-like event, and did a walking tour of Flying Turns with attendees.
... So yay photos of people walking the track! :razz:
More photos from Great Coasters' FRED event: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 094&type=1
GCI recently held their own TED-like event, and did a walking tour of Flying Turns with attendees.
... So yay photos of people walking the track! :razz:
More photos from Great Coasters' FRED event: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 094&type=1
rollermonkey
Strata Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
Intriguing.
I wonder if GCI has been the 'behind the scenes' supplier of the prototype trains for this? Nobody seems to actually know where they have been coming from... Do we?
Intriguing.
I wonder if GCI has been the 'behind the scenes' supplier of the prototype trains for this? Nobody seems to actually know where they have been coming from... Do we?
Jer
Strata Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
Yeah, thanks to Jerry we got to walk the track too, I even got a video myself, it's a little **** but it shows a bit of the ride.
I didnt feel a need to post it aswell, but why the **** not.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm2Nb4uj1P4&feature[/youtube]
Edit - Played around with the code for you to make the video work. Hyde244
Yeah, thanks to Jerry we got to walk the track too, I even got a video myself, it's a little **** but it shows a bit of the ride.
I didnt feel a need to post it aswell, but why the **** not.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm2Nb4uj1P4&feature[/youtube]
Edit - Played around with the code for you to make the video work. Hyde244
Thekingin64
Strata Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
I've watched the prototype POV of this and while there could be plenty of improvements, this actually does look fun.
I've watched the prototype POV of this and while there could be plenty of improvements, this actually does look fun.
ciallkennett
Strata Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
They said that although it was pretty much completed (they're building a maintenance track slidy thing which is quite cool), testing will be extensive and that it won't open for "at least another couple of years".
Martyn B said:
They said that although it was pretty much completed (they're building a maintenance track slidy thing which is quite cool), testing will be extensive and that it won't open for "at least another couple of years".
JJLehto
Hyper Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
So is this thing ever gunna open?
It may end up being the most anticipated opening ever!
No engineering expert but seriously how difficult is a small bobsled coaster?
Haha ring racer...talk about embarrassing! If they ever open up now you have a terrible, non record breaking coaster. Awwwesome
So is this thing ever gunna open?
It may end up being the most anticipated opening ever!
No engineering expert but seriously how difficult is a small bobsled coaster?
Haha ring racer...talk about embarrassing! If they ever open up now you have a terrible, non record breaking coaster. Awwwesome
bmac
Giga Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
Well when you throw in about 2 floods, a whole lot of jack-knifes, about 3 different types of test trains and stack that up on a coaster concept that hasn't been touched on since the 1930's you can see why this has been such an issue.
Ring Racer only went 130 for about .66 seconds before getting trimmed into the hammer head. If I heard this right they're going to be trimming the top speed down to Dudonpa speeds or even slower so the tanks don't explode from the pressure.
Well when you throw in about 2 floods, a whole lot of jack-knifes, about 3 different types of test trains and stack that up on a coaster concept that hasn't been touched on since the 1930's you can see why this has been such an issue.
Ring Racer only went 130 for about .66 seconds before getting trimmed into the hammer head. If I heard this right they're going to be trimming the top speed down to Dudonpa speeds or even slower so the tanks don't explode from the pressure.
JJLehto
Hyper Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
That is a good point but still.
Yeah RR was already lame, at least a huge top hat is better than that helix type thing.
According too RCDB RR is only to reach a top speed of 99.4 mph
http://www.rcdb.com/4161.htm
That is a good point but still.
Yeah RR was already lame, at least a huge top hat is better than that helix type thing.
According too RCDB RR is only to reach a top speed of 99.4 mph
http://www.rcdb.com/4161.htm
bmac
Giga Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
and now it's a upcharge attraction full of suck. Atleast it won't be on the level of Manhattan Express in Las Vegas (TOGOOOOOOOO!!!).
Back on topic. I'm sure Knoebels is getting a little pissed that the ride isn't done yet, but they don't want any possibility of jacknifing to happen whatsoever. If I remember right even the Mack / Gerstlauer Sleds Jacknifed once or twice.
and now it's a upcharge attraction full of suck. Atleast it won't be on the level of Manhattan Express in Las Vegas (TOGOOOOOOOO!!!).
Back on topic. I'm sure Knoebels is getting a little pissed that the ride isn't done yet, but they don't want any possibility of jacknifing to happen whatsoever. If I remember right even the Mack / Gerstlauer Sleds Jacknifed once or twice.
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
As others have mentioned, this is a piece of technology that hasn't been touched for some 80 odd years.
The first problem with Flying Turns was wheel design, which was eventually corrected, and soon followed by testing of 5 car trains. The trains however were going too fast and ran the risk of jackknifing. So the trick now has been trying to find a new train design (and complete retracking of the ride), which Knoebels announced they believe they had found in June of 2011, when they released a full ride POV.
If Knoebels wanted to hurry up development of this coaster, they would pour a much larger budget into the ride. However, after the recession of 2008, the money is simply not there. So they are left to slowly develop, but develop non the less.
This roller coaster could open 100 years late - it will still be greeted with trumpets and fanfare by coaster geeks and general public alike.
As others have mentioned, this is a piece of technology that hasn't been touched for some 80 odd years.
The first problem with Flying Turns was wheel design, which was eventually corrected, and soon followed by testing of 5 car trains. The trains however were going too fast and ran the risk of jackknifing. So the trick now has been trying to find a new train design (and complete retracking of the ride), which Knoebels announced they believe they had found in June of 2011, when they released a full ride POV.
If Knoebels wanted to hurry up development of this coaster, they would pour a much larger budget into the ride. However, after the recession of 2008, the money is simply not there. So they are left to slowly develop, but develop non the less.
This roller coaster could open 100 years late - it will still be greeted with trumpets and fanfare by coaster geeks and general public alike.
rollermonkey
Strata Poster
Re: Knoebels |"Flying Turns"| In house construction
That's oddly different from "it will open when it's ready"...
I half wonder if they are getting close and are keeping it on the downlow.
ciallkennett said:
That's oddly different from "it will open when it's ready"...
I half wonder if they are getting close and are keeping it on the downlow.