Kings Island | Banshee | B&M Invert
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
That means the last helix could be crap, or could provide some good forces. The one thing I am glad to see is that it is a descending helix - I am not a fan of helixes that spin upwards with Cedar Fair inverts, as the train loses speed through the helix. Cedar Fair's first invert, Raptor, has a descending helix, which increases in speed and g-force as it goes. Very nice element.
I'm imagining the inline to be similar to the B&M Wing Rider inlines or Hydra's Jojo Roll - slower with hangtime.
I am just really hoping the pacing is alright with Banshee. They have said that the fastest point won't be reached until the second half of the ride, but there are still plenty of inversions and turns that would be nice to have some g-force in.
It will be the end of the ride, without any MCBR, which means speed is designed to be naturally reduced without the assistance of braking.Sanchezmran said:
That means the last helix could be crap, or could provide some good forces. The one thing I am glad to see is that it is a descending helix - I am not a fan of helixes that spin upwards with Cedar Fair inverts, as the train loses speed through the helix. Cedar Fair's first invert, Raptor, has a descending helix, which increases in speed and g-force as it goes. Very nice element.
I'm imagining the inline to be similar to the B&M Wing Rider inlines or Hydra's Jojo Roll - slower with hangtime.
I am just really hoping the pacing is alright with Banshee. They have said that the fastest point won't be reached until the second half of the ride, but there are still plenty of inversions and turns that would be nice to have some g-force in.
Jarrett
Most Obnoxious Member 2016
Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
Looking at the webcam, it looks like the first bit of lift is in place! Yay!
Image courtesy of Kings Island, of course.
Hope it's okay if I post that...
EDIT: Didn't know the webcam updated with the one on the site. Thought that image would have a separate image URL. Sorry you can't see it at night.
Looking at the webcam, it looks like the first bit of lift is in place! Yay!
Image courtesy of Kings Island, of course.
Hope it's okay if I post that...
EDIT: Didn't know the webcam updated with the one on the site. Thought that image would have a separate image URL. Sorry you can't see it at night.
B&MintaminGCI
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
That is a steep lift, and it looks awesome
That is a steep lift, and it looks awesome
TheCoasterCruiser
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
It looks rather tall actually!
It looks rather tall actually!
B&MintaminGCI
Roller Poster
Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
That drop has the potential to be amazing, look how high it is and it's not even topped off, and how it has to sweep around to those 2 low supports. Come on B&M don't let me down!
That drop has the potential to be amazing, look how high it is and it's not even topped off, and how it has to sweep around to those 2 low supports. Come on B&M don't let me down!
owentaylor121
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
This ride is massive! Hope B&M don't mess this one up!
This ride is massive! Hope B&M don't mess this one up!
Nemesis of oblivion
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
B&M hardly ever mess up. Not as much as other manufacturers anyway.owenrita121 said:
owentaylor121
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
^I didn't mean it like that, I meant it as being like some of the other newer Inverts, forceless and nothing really special about them.
^I didn't mean it like that, I meant it as being like some of the other newer Inverts, forceless and nothing really special about them.
Hobbes
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
This. I really would like to see an intense invert built again. The speed and the batwing both seem like good signs to me, but I'm still not convinced it will be particularly forceful. We can only hope at this point.owenrita121 said:
Jarrett
Most Obnoxious Member 2016
Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
That dive loop looks pretty round to be forceless in the animation.
I honestly don't think that newer B&Ms are bad. Definitely don't feel like old ones but it's not bad. Has anybody ridden Wild Eagle in the back on the left? I rode there this season, expecting the mild, floaty ride that coaster usually provides. How wrong was I? That ride invoked more swearing out of me than my first ride on MEAN STREAK. Not out of pain or fear, but surprise! It was my first time experiencing the stapling but MAN! I found it more intense than Apollo's Chariot! I was very pleasantly surprised with that run until I got nailed into my restraint. It felt very different than, say, Afterburn, but the forces were still there. The sped at which they fluctuated was significantly lower , but it felt just as intense. I couldn't keep my hands up going around te eight curve. I imagine similar forces would have to be present SOMEWHERE on Banshee.
I also said this on another site, but could this be programmed like GateKeeper in that once the train is fully on the chain, it kicks up the speed? I didn't notice it on Wild Eagle but I noticed it on GateKeeper.
Can't wait to see the actual ride go up!
That dive loop looks pretty round to be forceless in the animation.
I honestly don't think that newer B&Ms are bad. Definitely don't feel like old ones but it's not bad. Has anybody ridden Wild Eagle in the back on the left? I rode there this season, expecting the mild, floaty ride that coaster usually provides. How wrong was I? That ride invoked more swearing out of me than my first ride on MEAN STREAK. Not out of pain or fear, but surprise! It was my first time experiencing the stapling but MAN! I found it more intense than Apollo's Chariot! I was very pleasantly surprised with that run until I got nailed into my restraint. It felt very different than, say, Afterburn, but the forces were still there. The sped at which they fluctuated was significantly lower , but it felt just as intense. I couldn't keep my hands up going around te eight curve. I imagine similar forces would have to be present SOMEWHERE on Banshee.
I also said this on another site, but could this be programmed like GateKeeper in that once the train is fully on the chain, it kicks up the speed? I didn't notice it on Wild Eagle but I noticed it on GateKeeper.
Can't wait to see the actual ride go up!
rtotheizzo17
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
^Most of the newer B&M's have a "creep" mode built in. If the next block is not clear the chain will run at a slower speed until the train in front of it has passed.
Dueling Dragons used to have multi-speed chains to allow the Dragons to duel.
^Most of the newer B&M's have a "creep" mode built in. If the next block is not clear the chain will run at a slower speed until the train in front of it has passed.
Dueling Dragons used to have multi-speed chains to allow the Dragons to duel.
owentaylor121
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Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
Topped out!
Topped out!
rollermonkey
Strata Poster
Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
Looks like B&M is playing along with the 'minimal lift hill supports' game.
I like the colors a lot more than I thought I would. They really POP nicely.
Looks like B&M is playing along with the 'minimal lift hill supports' game.
I like the colors a lot more than I thought I would. They really POP nicely.
rollermonkey
Strata Poster
Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
What are you talking about? Technically, it began to fade before the paint was even dry.
What are you talking about? Technically, it began to fade before the paint was even dry.
Jarrett
Most Obnoxious Member 2016
Re: Kings Island | "Banshee" | B&M Invert
Diamondback's track around the splashdown already looks horrible but the rest of the ride's held up nicely. Though I can't be the only one who's noticed that there's an extra yellow support after where the supports are supposed to turn beige.
Technically, as stated above, it's already fading. Though I think it'll be fine for a few years. I've noticed that medium track shades seem to last the longest. Though Dragster's red looks awful ten years later, that thing is dire for a repaint.
Diamondback's track around the splashdown already looks horrible but the rest of the ride's held up nicely. Though I can't be the only one who's noticed that there's an extra yellow support after where the supports are supposed to turn beige.
Technically, as stated above, it's already fading. Though I think it'll be fine for a few years. I've noticed that medium track shades seem to last the longest. Though Dragster's red looks awful ten years later, that thing is dire for a repaint.