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furie

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peep said:
Oh, to those lucky lucky Americans (and Canadians), can you please not post any spoilers regarding Toy Story 3. I swear Pixar secretly hates us (even though their films do a lot better in Europe!) and have given us an entire month to wait. Urgh! :(

Zurg... He's Buzz's Dad!!!! :p
 

Naemuti

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LiveForTheLaunch said:
Toy Story 3

Even though the first and second are superior to the third, the third was right up there, which was surprising considering the huge gap between this one and the last one that was made. It had a lot of funny moments (the potato head on the tortille, and Barbie and Ken), seemed just like a Toy Story film, and was overall entertaining. The ending made me cry though, it was kind of embarassing.

8/10

Don't worry, I almost cried at least 10 times in the movie. A friend I was seeing it with actually DID cry.

I'd probably rate the movie a 9/10, though. It was my least favorite of the series but that isn't saying much because it was still pretty much flawless. I hated having to sit through the Ken modeling scene, that was about it. I loved Mr. Tortilla Head and the opening scene on the train.

And they made Andy really cute. :--D
 

Ben

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To try and like it more than I did before, I watched the first Toy Story.

It's ****.

It really is the second worst thing Pixar have ever done, and I can't get excited for the third.

Woody and Buzz are both unlikeable arseholes, and the plot resembles something you could piss into snow. Boo, bleh, no.
 

Naemuti

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Ben said:
To try and like it more than I did before, I watched the first Toy Story.

It's <img>.

It really is the second worst thing Pixar have ever done, and I can't get excited for the third.

Woody and Buzz are both unlikeable arseholes, and the plot resembles something you could piss into snow. Boo, bleh, no.

Okay Armond White. :wink:
 

Ben

CF Legend
^ I have no idea who that is...

But, I challenge anyone to tell me why they like it with specific reference to characterization, plot and humour without just going "it's good, so there".

It's not. It's rubbish. I'll watch Nemo instead. For that is good.
 

nealbie

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I think he's calling you a critic.

And as far as Toy Story goes, yes, the film's utter tosh - but it's all about the childhood intrigue. "Did my toy really just move?...... I swear I left him over there..... Did you hear that?....." And that's why it's genius.

But like all Pixar, if you can no longer relate to it, it becomes rubbish.

Man ages, wife dies, flies away in balloons - I can't relate, so it does nothing for me. A robot that falls in love with ANOTHER robot, nope, nothing. Cars on the other hand - whilst clearly pointless for a good 45 minutes, I still adore it because it's right up my street.

I'm not saying you're a fish Ben. But clearly you relate better to retarded clownfish than you do the inhabitants of an ELC shelf :lol: (and I say that in the nicest and most loving way I can :p)
 

Ben

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Well, if it can't make me relate and every other Pixar film can (and I SHOULDN'T be able to relate so closely to a robot in the future as I can toys), then it obviously fails.

Of course, this is all in relation to Cars. Which is by far the worst.
 
To be honest Neal, your logic is sort of flawed. I mean, what Pixar films can you REALLY relate to? I suppose Toy Story might be the most relatable since we've all loved a toy at one point or another, but we're not actually toys. Monster's Inc? We can't relate to monsters in a factory. Nemo? No, we're not fish. Ratatouille? Meh, unless you're a chef who knows a talking mouse. Cars? Not really. Wall-E? Definitely not.

But they're all quality films, besides maybe Cars. So to say that they're crap unless you can relate is kinda dumb.
 

Lain

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nealbie said:
blah blah can't relate tosh

You're a big fan of The Lion King aren't you?

You can easily relate to a young lion seeing his father murdered by his uncle and then befriending a warthog and a meerkat before eventually (with the guidance of a crazy baboon) taking his revenge and claiming his rightful place then?

:wink:
 

nealbie

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Not DIRECTLY you retard. Bless.

As in - Can you relate to thinking your Toys are alive? Can you relate to strength in numbers? Can you feel empathy towards children lost in new surroundings or adults coming to terms with things alien to them? Can you feel for a father's loss of his son? Can you relate to family bonding over a common issue? Can you relate to discovering yourself after a valuable life lesson? Can you relate to trying and accepting something new and unusual? Can you relate to ever having loved someone you can't have? And can you feel empathy towards the sudden and unexpected loss of a loved one?

Not - Am I a toy? Am I an ant? Am I a monster? Am I a fish? Am I a superhero? Am I a car? Am I a rat? Am I a robot? Am I an old man with balloons flying out the chimney of my floating house?

:roll:


And Lain, you've stupidly fallen into the same idiocy - The Lion King is also a "valuable life lesson/journey of self-discovery". Not - Am I a Lion?

I'd expected this from the Canadian, but better from you :lol:
 

Ben

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Yeah, I don't know where all this "relating" bollocks has come from. I don't hinge my enjoyment of a film on if I relate with the characters or not. It's a part of it yes, but, a film can be excellent even if I don't relate to any of them. I don't really relate to any of the characters in Up, but, it's still vastly awesome and amazing and I love it.

You're trying to tell me why I do or do not enjoy something (again) Neal, and getting it wrong (again), something you have a habit of doing to a fair few people. Please stop trying. You keep getting it wrong.
 

Nemesis Inferno

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Ben said:
Yeah, I don't know where all this "relating" bollocks has come from. I don't hinge my enjoyment of a film on if I relate with the characters or not. It's a part of it yes, but, a film can be excellent even if I don't relate to any of them. I don't really relate to any of the characters in Up, but, it's still vastly awesome and amazing and I love it.

Bugger, I agree with this viewpoint...

*takes a cold shower*
 
Not - Am I a toy? Am I an ant? Am I a monster? Am I a fish? Am I a superhero? Am I a car? Am I a rat? Am I a robot? Am I an old man with balloons flying out the chimney of my floating house?

Well in that case then, you can relate to pretty much anything. You say you can't relate to Up, but have you ever lost someone close to you? Surely that would be relating, right?
 

Naemuti

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kimahri said:
The Princess and the Frog.

<3

Disney should stay with it's traditional animation

Considering Disney's traditional animation has been largely terrible direct-to-DVD sequels or traded in for live performances like High School Musical which are equally terrible, I'm going to go ahead and say I like what Pixar's doing a hell of a lot more. :wink:
 
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