Alton Towers | The Smiler | Gerstlauer Infinity
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SaiyanHajime
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Ha. A park maintaining something non essential? That doesn't happen anywhere but Disney.Enigma Shadow said:
Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
^A lot of towers have those glass floor things, made from scratch-resistant glass and getting hundreds/thousands of people a day walking on them. Even a UK park wouldn't be averse to swishing a mop over it at the end the day.
^A lot of towers have those glass floor things, made from scratch-resistant glass and getting hundreds/thousands of people a day walking on them. Even a UK park wouldn't be averse to swishing a mop over it at the end the day.
SaiyanHajime
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Ah yeah, true, I forgot about those things in observation towers, derp. The mop won't happen though.gavin said:
Robbie
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Merlin do have form with the walk-on glass though: it's the highlight of the revamped Blackpool Tower and looks as good now as when they opened it a year ago. It's also rumoured to be part of Blackpool Sea-Life's new shark walk-through so, for me, this is the most plausible of the SW7 rumours.
Merlin do have form with the walk-on glass though: it's the highlight of the revamped Blackpool Tower and looks as good now as when they opened it a year ago. It's also rumoured to be part of Blackpool Sea-Life's new shark walk-through so, for me, this is the most plausible of the SW7 rumours.
nealbie
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Scratch resistant coatings are dirt cheap and pretty much everything comes with it as standard. Although if they wanted to make it reflection free it'd cost a bomb! /optical goon xD
Still very intrigued by this, but will go and hide from this topic now, so I get pleasantly surprised by it at worst c:
Scratch resistant coatings are dirt cheap and pretty much everything comes with it as standard. Although if they wanted to make it reflection free it'd cost a bomb! /optical goon xD
Still very intrigued by this, but will go and hide from this topic now, so I get pleasantly surprised by it at worst c:
T0M
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
In terms of a 'drop' (not sure I like the measurement of anything steeper than 90 degrees, but..)...has anything like this ever been done before? The station would be at the top and this would be inside the building obviously...
Surely they could call that 'world beating' if they wanted to play the '360 degree' card, and it could certainly never be beaten, only equalled.
In terms of a 'drop' (not sure I like the measurement of anything steeper than 90 degrees, but..)...has anything like this ever been done before? The station would be at the top and this would be inside the building obviously...
Surely they could call that 'world beating' if they wanted to play the '360 degree' card, and it could certainly never be beaten, only equalled.
Lancebloke
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Given me a good idea for a worlds first!
Train comes out of station. Stops out of view of queue. Coaster train locks in place like at the top of oblivion. Track itself rotates 90 degrees in to vertical. Train releases in to a vertical drop start.
Havent seen any heights here and dont think this is what they are going for, but would be interesting
Given me a good idea for a worlds first!
Train comes out of station. Stops out of view of queue. Coaster train locks in place like at the top of oblivion. Track itself rotates 90 degrees in to vertical. Train releases in to a vertical drop start.
Havent seen any heights here and dont think this is what they are going for, but would be interesting
Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Tom - It's pretty much physically impossible, unless it's a controlled inversion. To carry enough speed to complete the "loop" you have to incur negative g-forces that would at the very least be severely uncomfortable, or possibly even kill riders.
A controlled inversion like that though powered all the way through slowly could be done.
Lancebloke - like a reverse Vekoma vertical drop coaster (can't remember what the model is called - Gravity Max)? In which case, interesting gimmick, but pants :lol:
Tom - It's pretty much physically impossible, unless it's a controlled inversion. To carry enough speed to complete the "loop" you have to incur negative g-forces that would at the very least be severely uncomfortable, or possibly even kill riders.
A controlled inversion like that though powered all the way through slowly could be done.
Lancebloke - like a reverse Vekoma vertical drop coaster (can't remember what the model is called - Gravity Max)? In which case, interesting gimmick, but pants :lol:
Mark
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Tom. I have often thought that would be a good idea. I would love to see them attempt it, although, as Furie has said, it would indeed need to be controlled. We know that the maneuver is possible though, since a SkySwat sort of does the same thing and moves at a fair speed. I think the difficulty would be engineering it and the amount of tech it would take. If a screaming squirrel can control the first half of the same thing I see no reason why it couldnt control a return to the upright position.
I doubt very much that we will see it on the Alton coaster though.
Tom. I have often thought that would be a good idea. I would love to see them attempt it, although, as Furie has said, it would indeed need to be controlled. We know that the maneuver is possible though, since a SkySwat sort of does the same thing and moves at a fair speed. I think the difficulty would be engineering it and the amount of tech it would take. If a screaming squirrel can control the first half of the same thing I see no reason why it couldnt control a return to the upright position.
I doubt very much that we will see it on the Alton coaster though.
Lancebloke
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Furie.... ah yes. Only one of those out there but would mean not worlds first.
I think if they are going to do the shop thing then it should go right through the middle of the shop, not just above or underneath. Obviously it would be in its own area with glass etc.
Not quite a rollercoater, but the people mover in Magic Kingdom goes over the shop, I think for some buzz lightyear ride that I didnt go on. Not sure that the people in the shop see you though as it is very dark up the top where the trains move through.
Furie.... ah yes. Only one of those out there but would mean not worlds first.
I think if they are going to do the shop thing then it should go right through the middle of the shop, not just above or underneath. Obviously it would be in its own area with glass etc.
Not quite a rollercoater, but the people mover in Magic Kingdom goes over the shop, I think for some buzz lightyear ride that I didnt go on. Not sure that the people in the shop see you though as it is very dark up the top where the trains move through.
T0M
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Thanks for taking my idea semi-seriously haha. It's my best theory of what they're going to attempt for now disregarding rumours. With lap bars I think it'd be bearable on the rider and we know the upstops are pretty durable on the Euros as a basis. If the ride is costing the £20m they claim then a large chunk of that could be spent on developing this maybe. The exit would be lower than the entry so force required to complete the element would be lower, but I guess it could still be trimmed and they'd still have the record.
Anyway as I say it's just an idea I've had for a while, it ain't based on rumour or suchlike - it just seems plausible that'd they'd attempt something like it for the unbeatable/world's first record which they are obsessed with.
Thanks for taking my idea semi-seriously haha. It's my best theory of what they're going to attempt for now disregarding rumours. With lap bars I think it'd be bearable on the rider and we know the upstops are pretty durable on the Euros as a basis. If the ride is costing the £20m they claim then a large chunk of that could be spent on developing this maybe. The exit would be lower than the entry so force required to complete the element would be lower, but I guess it could still be trimmed and they'd still have the record.
Anyway as I say it's just an idea I've had for a while, it ain't based on rumour or suchlike - it just seems plausible that'd they'd attempt something like it for the unbeatable/world's first record which they are obsessed with.
Lancebloke
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
I would have thought the ride was the expensive mainly because of the land alterations required. Can't just build it like most other parks, have to set up a mini quarry.
I would have thought the ride was the expensive mainly because of the land alterations required. Can't just build it like most other parks, have to set up a mini quarry.
Youngster Joey
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Re: Alton Towers | SW7 | Unknown (Gestlauer?) World's 1st
Not sure if anyone posted this yet and feel free to delete this if it has been posted but Screamscape has an interesting rumor
http://www.screamscape.com/html/alton_towers.htm
I don't know much about Alton but this is just crazy.
Not sure if anyone posted this yet and feel free to delete this if it has been posted but Screamscape has an interesting rumor
http://www.screamscape.com/html/alton_towers.htm
I don't know much about Alton but this is just crazy.
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