Alton Towers | The Smiler | Gerstlauer Infinity

[Lofty]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

I still doubt it having a launch, not in the way some people are meaning anyway. I doubt it having a rolling launch of any kind, it'll have an uphill launch if anything, that's VERY possible.

 

[elephant58]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

I still doubt that the 'inverting drop' will happen, as it wasn't on the plans and judging by your reasoning (the banking on the drop in the game), the 'inversion' would be too tight for a 4x4 train.

The track work can change to what is on the plans. Whether it will, remains to be seen. The inverting drop would happen whilst you go down the first drop so basically a barrel roll but it goes down at an angle - can't see why it would be to tight?

I'm aware trackwork can change, which is why I pointed out 2 reasons. The drop is only 30 m, not huge. On the game, it appears you can see the entire drop, with it straightening at the top. That's how it's too tight. I may be wrong, but a rolling drop seems unlikely.

And an LSM up the lift hill would be cool.

 

[Rollercoasters4Life]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Going back to the recent theory of a inverting drop and with Towers2Go's latest images I thought I would have a quick play with No Limits...

This is the image that was taken by Towers2Go

Heres another angle:

Look on the left of the above photo - it clearly shows an inverting support so I went onto No Limits to recreate it and show an inverted drop. As you can see I've marked the support that looks like the one in Towers2Go latest image:

Food for thought...and here is two more images just showing off the inverted drop:

 

[furie]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

I think you can see the odd support on the original plans:
It seems to be off the second lift, but yes, looks like it might invert slightly after the second lift.

It's difficult to tell, because you can't really get a good idea of which supports they are in the photos.

 

[Rollercoasters4Life]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

I think you can see the odd support on the original plans:
It seems to be off the second lift, but yes, looks like it might invert slightly after the second lift.

It's difficult to tell, because you can't really get a good idea of which supports they are in the photos.

I was under the impression that the photo is showing off the left side of the supports meaning where the first lift hill drops down turns right then into the inverting drop - not the drop after the second lift hill. Could you have a look to see if you can see the odd support in the plans (I couldn't) - would be grateful. :--D

EDIT: Updated original post and this is the image which shows the side better:

 

[furie]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Here's the same area in the plans showing both hills:

I think that makes it easier to compare the image you've posted and the proposed layout. Your "inversion" support would be on the far left of those plans I think - the hill kind of peeping through the trees.

I did hear that the ride was meant to have 13 inversions, so it's always possible there is another one here, and either one hidden like Saw in the secret area - or a multiple roll taking the inversion count up.

Seeing the drop between the station height and the lift hill, would it be possible for the track to spin tumble drier style as it drops vertically down?

 

[elephant58]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Aren't they just the dive loop supports?

 

[Lofty]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

I REALLY just think if anything, it's an overbank leading to the drop, not an inverting drop.

 

[rollermonkey]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Storm Runner - Flying Snake Dive / Kumba - downhill zero-G roll
?

 

[Martyn B]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Kumba - downhill zero-G roll

Huh.....?

 

[Lofty]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Kumba - downhill zero-G roll
?

What? Yeah, you've not got a clue...

 

[Nemesis of oblivion]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

From Towers Twitter Page

 

[ciallkennett]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

TowersTimes have just confirmed that the layout has changed from the submitted plans slightly, apparently:

http://old.towerstimes.co.uk/news/n...ll&id=1361389720&archive&start_from&ucat=1,11

So yeah, the possibility of the disputed support and its purpose might actually have something to it.

 

[Temleh]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

I think the inversion record is a safe bet now.

 

[scw55]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Does this mean there is a high chance that the layout will resemble the essence of an Amateur Roller Coaster Tycoon player's layout (but of course made to look aesthetically pleasing).

I mean, shoving as many inversions as physically possible?

 

[Swat]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Hopefully if it is the inversion record there will be no reason for silly gimmicks such as the washing machine element.

Really looking forward till May now!

 

[Martyn B]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

LOL, they're going to be covering up these 'changes' to the layout in the their next update!

 

[marc]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Tbh the way they have been covering the pictures up there has been zero point in posting them.

 

[Coasterfreck]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Storm Runner - Flying Snake Dive / Kumba - downhill zero-G roll
?

I think a better example would be Incredible Hulk, Universal Studios Orlando which has a Zero-G Roll which leads into the first drop.

And we all know this will how the updates will now look: :--D :lol:
Latest aerial update from MI7 today is up!

 

[Smithy]

Re: Alton Towers | The Smiler | Unknown Gerstlauer World's 1

Rofl well played.