Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
Do you mean ‘far left?’
Democrats are supposed to be centre left aligned.
Democrats are definitely not more right wing than Reform! But I expect you just made a simple error, and so this statement is irrelevant anyway.
Democrats are supposed to be centre left aligned.
Democrats are definitely not more right wing than Reform! But I expect you just made a simple error, and so this statement is irrelevant anyway.
Matt N
CF Legend
It’s all well and good that Harris is leading Trump in some nationwide polls, but the thing to remember about American elections is that it’s the swing states that matter. It’s worth remembering that Clinton actually won the popular vote in 2016, but Trump got in because of his support cleverly coalescing around key swing states, which won him more electors in the Electoral College.
The race is very tight at the moment; I think it could go either way. I’m definitely happy to see Harris as the Democratic candidate, however, and I’m glad to see that she seems to have injected some momentum into the race.
I’m disappointed to see Trump and the Republican Party seemingly resorting to criticising Kamala Harris’ race and sex, however. In my view, they should critique her on her policies and her agenda for the USA rather than characteristics that are completely irrelevant to her ability to govern.
The race is very tight at the moment; I think it could go either way. I’m definitely happy to see Harris as the Democratic candidate, however, and I’m glad to see that she seems to have injected some momentum into the race.
I’m disappointed to see Trump and the Republican Party seemingly resorting to criticising Kamala Harris’ race and sex, however. In my view, they should critique her on her policies and her agenda for the USA rather than characteristics that are completely irrelevant to her ability to govern.
Dar
Hyper Poster
Watching the republicans, and Trump individually, lose their minds at being called weird is probably the greatest thing to have happened in years. They really can't stand it, and don't seem to have a comeback beyond "nuh uh!".
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and one of them to get so angy they just straight up start using the n-word
I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop and one of them to get so angy they just straight up start using the n-word
Furiustobaco
Mega Poster
I meant that Democrats are more far right than the conservatives. I feel the American political system is overall more far right than the UK’s. Bernie Sanders was touted as too far left in 2016, despite him saying pretty moderate stuff like how the healthcare system should be public.
Reform are another can of worms, but sit I guess on equal footing to The Republicans. Economic problems, healthcare shortages, teaching shortages, it’s the boats/Mexicans!
Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
Ahh ok, you have a point when talking about Conservatives of the last 10 years. But not so much the Thatcher years. All about to change back now too, Reform have scared them, and I think they believe that their own decline is down to the fact that they’ve swayed too close to the centre. I fully expect them to lean further right than we’ve seen in my lifetime, under their new leader. But that’s all conjecture, I guess we’ll see.
Matt N
CF Legend
America in general is a more right-wing country than Britain, so it makes sense that the Democrats will be further right than, say, Labour. Left-wing and right-wing will mean different things in different countries.
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but the thing I find interesting is that social conservatism is seemingly still very prevalent in large swathes of America, whereas I’d argue that traditional social conservatism is largely dead in the UK. As an example, the UK’s right-wing Conservative Party were the ones who legalised gay marriage, brought in self-ID for transgender people, and had numerous women and BAME people in positions of power during their 14 years in government. They’ve also left things like abortion rights and such largely intact, and no mainstream party in the UK is threatening to reverse these. Rights like gay marriage and abortion seem to be seen as irreversible even by the far-right in the UK.
Whereas in the USA, there still seems to be considerable support from some circles for things like criminalising homosexuality and gay marriage, and criminalising abortions. Social conservatism still seems to be alive and kicking in America, whereas I'd argue it's largely died a death in the UK (in its traditional form, at least).
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but the thing I find interesting is that social conservatism is seemingly still very prevalent in large swathes of America, whereas I’d argue that traditional social conservatism is largely dead in the UK. As an example, the UK’s right-wing Conservative Party were the ones who legalised gay marriage, brought in self-ID for transgender people, and had numerous women and BAME people in positions of power during their 14 years in government. They’ve also left things like abortion rights and such largely intact, and no mainstream party in the UK is threatening to reverse these. Rights like gay marriage and abortion seem to be seen as irreversible even by the far-right in the UK.
Whereas in the USA, there still seems to be considerable support from some circles for things like criminalising homosexuality and gay marriage, and criminalising abortions. Social conservatism still seems to be alive and kicking in America, whereas I'd argue it's largely died a death in the UK (in its traditional form, at least).
InvertsAreMyJam
Mega Poster
Wow I finally caught up with that Trump interview with the black panel and that was absolutely mad - what planet is this guy on!
Woeful… no sane person could watch that and say ‘that went well’.
It’s amazing to think that after the assassination attempt this guy looked like a dead cert for a second term.
After watching that black panel clip, I find myself asking how could Trump possibly win!!
Woeful… no sane person could watch that and say ‘that went well’.
It’s amazing to think that after the assassination attempt this guy looked like a dead cert for a second term.
After watching that black panel clip, I find myself asking how could Trump possibly win!!
Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
Bonkers isn't it, at one point I found myself wondering if there was kind of significant financial gain to be had from running and losing... But no, I think he's just genuinely lost the plot.