SaiyanHajime
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I suspect there is appeal in putting it on Facebook or Youtube for a lot of people. It's an impulse buy thing. I don't think it's any weirder than buying a ORP to be honest.
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Ploddish
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I guess in a way it would be more successful if they gave out a service to allow people to have them posted to social networks via their app or something. Both ORPs and ORV are either for posterity, in which case the majority of people who enjoy having huge online repositories of their memories; or for showing off to their friends, in which case they would benefit from having it put in a place their friends can access that's simple to do.
Though there are clearly people who care enough for both reasons enough for them to want to do it, otherwise it wouldn't've been instigated in the first place. I assume once the cameras/backend is set up, it's a cheap process.
Though there are clearly people who care enough for both reasons enough for them to want to do it, otherwise it wouldn't've been instigated in the first place. I assume once the cameras/backend is set up, it's a cheap process.
People that buy them either have more money than sense, or girlfriends.
I love the idea of paying, like, 3 or 4 quid and having it emailed to you/set to your Facebook. I saw somewhere that let you send your on-ride photos for a few quid, which I liked.
But, the idea of paying, like, a tenner for a two minute DVD that you'd watch once makes me die a bit inside. But, there's people who are obviously stupid enough to buy them.
I love the idea of paying, like, 3 or 4 quid and having it emailed to you/set to your Facebook. I saw somewhere that let you send your on-ride photos for a few quid, which I liked.
But, the idea of paying, like, a tenner for a two minute DVD that you'd watch once makes me die a bit inside. But, there's people who are obviously stupid enough to buy them.
Mark
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The only reason I ever bought one (which was Shiekra) was so that I could get it home, butcher it with an editing knife and add it into a video I was already putting together.
I agree with Ben. I think it should be a lot cheaper and something you get as a file that you can just sling on Facebook/Youtube. Its the only place its ever really going to get watch. As a DVD its just going to sit on a shelf and do nothing. It would be great to just instantly share it to Facebook from a computer screen at the ride exit and you could Tag the relevant people etc. It would be a lot more relevant as a 'look what i'm doing at the moment' kind of thing - as ploddish has already mentioned.
Its nice seeing the Swarm is testing but I look forward to seeing it on video. I am curious because I remember watching Raptor and thinking how 'graceful' the train seemed to move around the track - which in itself is ironic because its supposed to be a monster
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What I am still waiting to see is the helicopter. They have made such a fuss out of the plane and such, I always had it in my head that it would be likely for them to install the plane and the copter around the same time.
I agree with Ben. I think it should be a lot cheaper and something you get as a file that you can just sling on Facebook/Youtube. Its the only place its ever really going to get watch. As a DVD its just going to sit on a shelf and do nothing. It would be great to just instantly share it to Facebook from a computer screen at the ride exit and you could Tag the relevant people etc. It would be a lot more relevant as a 'look what i'm doing at the moment' kind of thing - as ploddish has already mentioned.
Its nice seeing the Swarm is testing but I look forward to seeing it on video. I am curious because I remember watching Raptor and thinking how 'graceful' the train seemed to move around the track - which in itself is ironic because its supposed to be a monster
.What I am still waiting to see is the helicopter. They have made such a fuss out of the plane and such, I always had it in my head that it would be likely for them to install the plane and the copter around the same time.
dominoes
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I know I bought my Saw Ride DVD. It was actually really good! I only bought it after research, because I didn't want to pay £12 for about 20 seconds. This and Saw should be quite good. I wouldn't pay money for the Oblivion or Rip Ride Rocket DVD, because they are either really short or mostly offride.
SaiyanHajime
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I think Ben's right. I'd pay a few quid to have something in digital form. I think they do this with photos at Thorpe, but you have to BUY the physical thing first and then you can email it to you for an extra £1. Why not be able to do that for say £3? It costs nothing.
I recently got a ORP from Dollywood and I get home, put it in my scanner and have trouble getting a decent scan of it. I'd much rather it was just digital.
I think £12 for those videos doesn't seem too bad, to be honest.
I recently got a ORP from Dollywood and I get home, put it in my scanner and have trouble getting a decent scan of it. I'd much rather it was just digital.
I think £12 for those videos doesn't seem too bad, to be honest.
Mark
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I hear your pain there Joey. We paid a small fortune for the Harry Potter ORP. I definitely wanted the photo to scan etc but it was blooming huge, the scan isn't wonderful and it was the most expensive ORP i've ever bought. PLus there is the keeping it safe/dry/unfolded for the rest of the day (or in this case Holiday). It would have been so much easier to jsut have a digital copy sent out to me.
Talking of Digital copies, the parks in Germany offered the digital sendout for free if you bought a photo (or at least they used to). I distinctly remember sending out the ORP for Silver Star and EGF to myself, Rob and Martyn aswell as to Ian so he could bung it up on here.
Surely offering digital would actually save them a lot of time and effort too?
So is Swarm having both video and ORP or just ORP then?
Talking of Digital copies, the parks in Germany offered the digital sendout for free if you bought a photo (or at least they used to). I distinctly remember sending out the ORP for Silver Star and EGF to myself, Rob and Martyn aswell as to Ian so he could bung it up on here.
Surely offering digital would actually save them a lot of time and effort too?
So is Swarm having both video and ORP or just ORP then?
Aaron
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Thorpe Park |"The Swarm"| B&M Wing Coaster
The problem with them offering digital copies is that it's effectively undercutting their own sales.
If they sell you a digital one, you aren't going to need to buy any more than one (and that'll only be if they make you to get the digital one!) of their (very heavily profitable) prints because you can make your own.
I know it makes sense for us but it doesn't make business sense for them.
The problem with them offering digital copies is that it's effectively undercutting their own sales.
If they sell you a digital one, you aren't going to need to buy any more than one (and that'll only be if they make you to get the digital one!) of their (very heavily profitable) prints because you can make your own.
I know it makes sense for us but it doesn't make business sense for them.
Disney offered the best one which I think is the way forward, they email them to you straight from a machine I think they do the same on Rip Rocket at Universal? The photo on Test Track was free as well.
I would prefer this than a photo that only gets scanner in anyway and then added to FB or here.
I would prefer this than a photo that only gets scanner in anyway and then added to FB or here.
rollermonkey
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I bought my HRRR video because I liked the ride and at that time, it completed my collection of ALL Florida coasters. I've never watched the disc since that week.
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Except that it does make business sense.
People who want a printed one would still buy a printed one. It's nice to have it in the frame, etc. I know that the only ones I have I have because I want them in their frame, displayed somewhere. I for one, wouldn't bother with a digital image. To me, that I'd look at once, stick in a file somewhere, and then probably erase over so I've got more room for [strike]porn[/strike] work.
What you're missing out on is the people who don't want that framed, phyiscal product. They can't be bothered to buy it and scan it in, so they don't buy one.
If you priced it at £4 or even £5 you're not exactly cutting out a lot of margin, but, you're BOUND to see a massive increase in the volume sold, at a HUGE profit margin.
I bet you'd see MAYBE 20% dip in physical sales. But, a huge increase in another product with just as big a margin.
It's a bit like the movie industry allowing digitial distribution instead of DVDs. It's not undercutting their own margin, it's just changing it. It's moving with the times, and actually giving costumers a product that's relevant to what they want in a changing World of the internet and social media.
Az said:
Except that it does make business sense.
People who want a printed one would still buy a printed one. It's nice to have it in the frame, etc. I know that the only ones I have I have because I want them in their frame, displayed somewhere. I for one, wouldn't bother with a digital image. To me, that I'd look at once, stick in a file somewhere, and then probably erase over so I've got more room for [strike]porn[/strike] work.
What you're missing out on is the people who don't want that framed, phyiscal product. They can't be bothered to buy it and scan it in, so they don't buy one.
If you priced it at £4 or even £5 you're not exactly cutting out a lot of margin, but, you're BOUND to see a massive increase in the volume sold, at a HUGE profit margin.
I bet you'd see MAYBE 20% dip in physical sales. But, a huge increase in another product with just as big a margin.
It's a bit like the movie industry allowing digitial distribution instead of DVDs. It's not undercutting their own margin, it's just changing it. It's moving with the times, and actually giving costumers a product that's relevant to what they want in a changing World of the internet and social media.
SaiyanHajime
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Most serious and sensible thing Ben has ever said on the forums, that.
I'd imagine Swarm is going to have both, Mark. It's done well on Saw.
Ya know what I think is funny about ORP is how few rides in the US have them. Kyle thought it was hilarious that some flats have them here. I have two theories, the first being that because most US parks have more rides and do not count some rides as being major attractions that we would here because of that. I honestly think though that they just genuinely buy less of them, which is odd because their mechanising is so much more varied and, in general, the US seems to tolerate lower profit margins with goods than here.
The price of ORPs is extortionate and I've long thought that a reduction in their price could easily double the amount they sell, and the more they sell and the more people seen buying them, the further more they would sell. I don't get it. They should be about £4 for a physical photo, in my opinion. I'd buy them far more often if they were. I get one about once every few years currently, on special occasions or particularly funny photos.
I'd imagine Swarm is going to have both, Mark. It's done well on Saw.
Ya know what I think is funny about ORP is how few rides in the US have them. Kyle thought it was hilarious that some flats have them here. I have two theories, the first being that because most US parks have more rides and do not count some rides as being major attractions that we would here because of that. I honestly think though that they just genuinely buy less of them, which is odd because their mechanising is so much more varied and, in general, the US seems to tolerate lower profit margins with goods than here.
The price of ORPs is extortionate and I've long thought that a reduction in their price could easily double the amount they sell, and the more they sell and the more people seen buying them, the further more they would sell. I don't get it. They should be about £4 for a physical photo, in my opinion. I'd buy them far more often if they were. I get one about once every few years currently, on special occasions or particularly funny photos.
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