Mitch Hawker Polls 2008 - Full Results In
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I still don't really buy Eagle's Fortress at number two! TWO! Or Superman as the best, given it was running like a trash can this year!
Glad to see Behemoth at number 7! That's ace! And Dragon Khan at number 10! That's awesome! Nemesis is once again far too high. But, yay, Nitro still comes in high and Sheikra comes above Griffon - that's good.
BUT, the WORST thing about the poll. The biggest WTF result this year... is Madrid's Superman as the BEST Floorless? Piss off. I've done, what, six Floorlesses now? And I will certainly say it's the worst. Better than Dominator and Medusa? Suck me. And Fahrenheit below Inferno? Piss off. NO! TALON below Inferno?!?!?!? I want to meet ONE person who has been on both and thinks Inferno is better, so I can smack them for being SO wrong. Why IS Inferno at 61? I do like it, but it's not that good by a mile. It's certainly not better than things like Dominator, Medusa and Talon, and I don't know anyway you could say it is...
Glad to see Behemoth at number 7! That's ace! And Dragon Khan at number 10! That's awesome! Nemesis is once again far too high. But, yay, Nitro still comes in high and Sheikra comes above Griffon - that's good.
BUT, the WORST thing about the poll. The biggest WTF result this year... is Madrid's Superman as the BEST Floorless? Piss off. I've done, what, six Floorlesses now? And I will certainly say it's the worst. Better than Dominator and Medusa? Suck me. And Fahrenheit below Inferno? Piss off. NO! TALON below Inferno?!?!?!? I want to meet ONE person who has been on both and thinks Inferno is better, so I can smack them for being SO wrong. Why IS Inferno at 61? I do like it, but it's not that good by a mile. It's certainly not better than things like Dominator, Medusa and Talon, and I don't know anyway you could say it is...
davidm
Strata Poster
Don't get me wrong I do like this poll, its by far the most geeky out there....
BUT...
Its a shame that only 14 riders "contributed" to the #1 woody and 13,11,19 and 15 only "contributed" to the nos 2,3=,5,11 steels.
Is there a bias for the more well-travelled of us to "big up" those far-flung coasters that we know the majority will probably not get to ride, just to look a bit geeky-cool?
Hmmm.
Dave (and no I haven't filled in the ballot for a couple of years!)
BUT...
Its a shame that only 14 riders "contributed" to the #1 woody and 13,11,19 and 15 only "contributed" to the nos 2,3=,5,11 steels.
Is there a bias for the more well-travelled of us to "big up" those far-flung coasters that we know the majority will probably not get to ride, just to look a bit geeky-cool?
Hmmm.
Dave (and no I haven't filled in the ballot for a couple of years!)
Stone Cold
Mega Poster
Aaah the so called TPR effect. To give them their credit, they do organise the biggest (but not best) trips to far flung destinations but then the members tend to follow Alvey's opinions like sheep.
Stone Cold
Mega Poster
They are, but their opinions on Air and that of anyone they may influence are going to be lost amongst the 172 riders who rode Air. Of the 13 riders who rode Eagle's Fortress, more of them will be likely to have ridden it as part of a TPR trip.
Of course, not everyone will have done (Gavin for example) and obviously people are able to form their own opinions. However, there is still the problem that if a ride is running well or badly (say due to rain, or time of day ridden) then a lot of those people are going to have the same good/bad experience and the ranking won't be representative of the ride compared to one with an equal number of riders, but who rode on different days.
Anyway, this effect is getting less and less every year I think, equally a problem this year is block voting from the Germans, it's obvious they're bitter about something...
These are only minor niggles though, it's still the best poll out there and probably the most accurate overall.
Of course, not everyone will have done (Gavin for example) and obviously people are able to form their own opinions. However, there is still the problem that if a ride is running well or badly (say due to rain, or time of day ridden) then a lot of those people are going to have the same good/bad experience and the ranking won't be representative of the ride compared to one with an equal number of riders, but who rode on different days.
Anyway, this effect is getting less and less every year I think, equally a problem this year is block voting from the Germans, it's obvious they're bitter about something...
These are only minor niggles though, it's still the best poll out there and probably the most accurate overall.
LiveForTheLaunch
CF Legend
Behemoth at number seven and Maverick nowhere to be found? And where is Millennium? Not that I think it deserves to be in the top ten, but still, with it being so widely regarded it's just totally gone now, with Eagle Fortress in second?
Come on now, I think this might be the most messed up poll from Mitch Hawker to date.
Come on now, I think this might be the most messed up poll from Mitch Hawker to date.
Dave
CF Legend
A quick UK top ten
1. Nemesis- Alton Towers
2. Nemesis Inferno- Thorpe Park
3. Speed- Oakwood
4. Stealth- Thorpe Park
5. Oblivion- Alton Towers
6. Air- Alton Towers
7. Rita- Alton Towers
8. Colossus- Thorpe Park
9. Knightmare- Camelot
10. Steeplechase- Blackpool
Notable entries
177. Jubilee Odysee
190. The Ultimate
220. Cobra (Paultons)
228. The Big One
1. Nemesis- Alton Towers
2. Nemesis Inferno- Thorpe Park
3. Speed- Oakwood
4. Stealth- Thorpe Park
5. Oblivion- Alton Towers
6. Air- Alton Towers
7. Rita- Alton Towers
8. Colossus- Thorpe Park
9. Knightmare- Camelot
10. Steeplechase- Blackpool
Notable entries
177. Jubilee Odysee
190. The Ultimate
220. Cobra (Paultons)
228. The Big One
I am shocked about Speed tbh, its no way better than some coasters it beat. I bet next year the UK's top coaster will be Saw just due to the number of people who ride it.
Tbh I think we have seem some strange results this year I am not sure if its due to the grouping system that was done on the poll.
EGF is dropping down the list year by year its sort of shows the park needs to do something to get people to go there, having one coaster is no longer enough.
Tbh I think we have seem some strange results this year I am not sure if its due to the grouping system that was done on the poll.
EGF is dropping down the list year by year its sort of shows the park needs to do something to get people to go there, having one coaster is no longer enough.
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Anonymous
Guest
I can't really understand what you have against Eagle Fortress. You seriously have to save up some cash and go experience it before you bash it's place in the poll. I mean, before I rode Eagle Fortress last year the only thing's I have heard about it is that it was a really fierce coaster that anyone that call's him/herself an enthusiast really needs to ride, and thanks to TPR me and several others got that opportunity (without having to plan a crazy trip to somewhere unknown). And EF really lived up to it's hype (actually even better). I have voted EF according to my own taste, and since it really blew me away, there wasn't any other place to put it then first.
Next year there is a group of ECC members that is going to Japan and Korea so we just have to see what that will do to it's ranking.
Also TPR or any other club trips are a good thing, since there haven't been easier to experience "exotic" coasters all over the world. You just have to show up the first day and then it's all done for you.
I'm also happy to see that Kawasemi and Piraten are ranked so high, they really deserve it and that EGF shouldn't really be ranked that high.
Next year there is a group of ECC members that is going to Japan and Korea so we just have to see what that will do to it's ranking.
Also TPR or any other club trips are a good thing, since there haven't been easier to experience "exotic" coasters all over the world. You just have to show up the first day and then it's all done for you.
I'm also happy to see that Kawasemi and Piraten are ranked so high, they really deserve it and that EGF shouldn't really be ranked that high.
The fact that Oblivion came lower than Stealth and Speed is crazy.
Oblivion would beat them any day, I think it would even beat Inferno.
However, the rest of the polls seem pretty good, another Hawker Poll that sums up the thoughts of the whole coaster community and lets us really know what is best. It's interesting to see where some rides come compared to others as well.
Oblivion would beat them any day, I think it would even beat Inferno.
However, the rest of the polls seem pretty good, another Hawker Poll that sums up the thoughts of the whole coaster community and lets us really know what is best. It's interesting to see where some rides come compared to others as well.
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Anonymous
Guest
The mega-lites are better.Ollie said:I know. It should be top.loefet said:
Is it just me or is there anyone else that isn't able to see the BestRollerCoasterPoll.com web page?
^Yep. "Page timed out".
Can it be because of server overload?
Can it be because of server overload?
theRock-steel
Mega Poster
As is normal, I am bothered by this poll. Only one of my top ten woodens made their top ten,
The Voyage. At #2, that is good, but what about Lightning Racer or Thunderhead? I guess new coasters like T-Express or Ravine Flyer II will have an edge; they are hot right now. What really gets my goat is Son of Beast still being on the bottom list. With some new track and new trains, it shouldn't be as rough as it wants was. I think that people are being pig headed about that one. I'm also kind of surprised that Mean Streak isn't on the bottom. (Actually, maybe it is there somewhere; I can't get the links to work.)
As for steel, that is almost as disappointing. I haven't been to any of those parks that have rides in the top ten, so all of mine have been out ranked.
:cry:
The Voyage. At #2, that is good, but what about Lightning Racer or Thunderhead? I guess new coasters like T-Express or Ravine Flyer II will have an edge; they are hot right now. What really gets my goat is Son of Beast still being on the bottom list. With some new track and new trains, it shouldn't be as rough as it wants was. I think that people are being pig headed about that one. I'm also kind of surprised that Mean Streak isn't on the bottom. (Actually, maybe it is there somewhere; I can't get the links to work.)
As for steel, that is almost as disappointing. I haven't been to any of those parks that have rides in the top ten, so all of mine have been out ranked.
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