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furie

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LiveForTheLaunch said:
^ Yeah.. I have a hard time believing that a coaster is capable of going from being a bottom ten coaster, to a top ten coaster, just by switching seats.

FFS, I can't believe I'm saying this but, I totally agree Taylor.

Different seats CAN affect your ride, but never to the degree between awesome and piss poor.

Maybe from "pretty good to awesome", or "piss poor" to "okay I suppose" - but not total extremes.
 

Antinos

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^But the thing, Furie, is that the ride isn't piss poor. It isn't bad at all, it's just not good. They're all faffing over the ride because they're spoiled with their glass smooth B&Ms, and especially Intamins at CP, and have too high of a standard set every time they ride a wooden coaster. They need to toughen up a bit and take a rattling, even one as rattling as SOB.
 

furie

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rollerdude said:
^But the thing, Furie, is that the ride isn't piss poor. It isn't bad at all, it's just not good. They're all faffing over the ride because they're spoiled with their glass smooth B&Ms, and especially Intamins at CP, and have too high of a standard set every time they ride a wooden coaster. They need to toughen up a bit and take a rattling, even one as rattling as SOB.

I don't quite get it?

I've been rattled to death by a lot of wooden coasters. Some of them I consider good, but rattly.

However, if given the option of good and rattly or good and smooth - then good and smooth is the future. I shouldn't have to bite back pain to enjoy a ride. My ability to combat the pain given me by a coaster shouldn't alter my opinion of the ride.

It's all about distraction. If you're enjoying walking down a country lane and the birds are singing and the sun is shining - then you get smacked in the face by a thug, it ruins the walk. It's a nice walk ruined by the shock of pain. If every time you walk down that lane you get smacked in the face - you eventually just say "I don't like that lane, I always get smacked in the face and I'm fed up with it".

Once you have a large coaster count, you start to get fed up with coasters smacking you in the face. You start to look at the ones that are good and don't scar you for life.

Now, pain is subjective, and enjoyment of pain is too - so there is always going to be a discrepancy. However, telling somebody that if they could just learn to enjoy the hurt, they'd enjoy the coaster is silly. People shouldn't have to completely change themselves to enjoy a ride. If the ride doesn't suit, it doesn't suit.

From what I've heard of SOB, it's only a minority that seem to actually enjoy the ride. In my book, that means it's target audience are the few masochists out there who like to have a good beating on a regular basis.

There's nothing wrong with that, whatever floats your boat - but sometimes, you just have to accept you're in a minority specialist group :)
 
FFS, I can't believe I'm saying this but, I totally agree Taylor.

Different seats CAN affect your ride, but never to the degree between awesome and piss poor.

Maybe from "pretty good to awesome", or "piss poor" to "okay I suppose" - but not total extremes.

Yeah, I have been on rides where the ride goes from eh, to great, such as El Toro, just by going from the front to the back, but never have I had it where it goes from blegh to fantastic.

^But the thing, Furie, is that the ride isn't piss poor. It isn't bad at all, it's just not good. They're all faffing over the ride because they're spoiled with their glass smooth B&Ms, and especially Intamins at CP, and have too high of a standard set every time they ride a wooden coaster. They need to toughen up a bit and take a rattling, even one as rattling as SOB.

Kay, I'm not one who cares about coasters being rough. Son of Beast and Wild Beast are the only two coasters I have ever been on that are so rough I'd never want to ride them again. People who say rides like Raptor and Medusa are rough need a slap in the face, and sure, I can take the amount of rattling certain coasters give, like Mean Streak, but Son of Beast was just owww for me all the way through. And it just so happens that you and Kevin are the only people who think it was decent.
 

rollermonkey

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LiveForTheLaunch said:
^ Yeah.. I have a hard time believing that a coaster is capable of going from being a bottom ten coaster, to a top ten coaster, just by switching seats.

While not bottom ten to top ten, both Roller Coaster at BPPB and Raging Wolf Bobs at 6FWoA had a HUGE difference in ride experience depending on seat selection.

In both cases, I found the rides to be snoozefests in the front seat, but out of control, wild, fun, and airtime machines in the back seat, and in both cases I rode multiple seats on the same day.

Now, I never went back to Geauga to see if I just hit RWB on a good day, but I did get back to BPPB a few years later, so I know that I lucked out with RC as it wasn't as good on the second visit.
 

Jools

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rollerdude said:
^But the thing, Furie, is that the ride isn't piss poor. It isn't bad at all, it's just not good. They're all faffing over the ride because they're spoiled with their glass smooth B&Ms, and especially Intamins at CP, and have too high of a standard set every time they ride a wooden coaster. They need to toughen up a bit and take a rattling, even one as rattling as SOB.

I agree, someone needs to come to the UK and get a trip to Pleasure Beach Blackpool, or just continuly ride Colossus at Thorpe Park, if that doesn't toughen you up, then may I suggest Manhatten Express or SOB like suggested.
 
While not bottom ten to top ten, both Roller Coaster at BPPB and Raging Wolf Bobs at 6FWoA had a HUGE difference in ride experience depending on seat selection.

Yeah, I've had it sometimes where the front/back makes a pretty big difference (Shivering Timbers is actually a decent example), but no way would Son of Beast go from my bottom ten coasters, to my top ten. The layout sucks anyway, so even if it were smooth, it still doesn't really do anything special.

I agree, someone needs to come to the UK and get a trip to Pleasure Beach Blackpool, or just continuly ride Colossus at Thorpe Park, if that doesn't toughen you up, then may I suggest Manhatten Express or SOB like suggested.

You think I haven't been on rough coasters? I've been on coasters like, as mentioned, SOB, Villain, Mean Streak, Iron Wolf (which I didn't think was that rough but everyone else does), etc.. And the only one that really hurt me to the point of actually physically being in pain during and after the ride, was SOB.
 

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I can't believe you left out Wild Beast! And Iron Wolf isn't that rough compared to some other stand-ups I've ridden.
I've been on a lot of rough coasters (most of those already mentioned plus GhostRider, Cyclone @ Coney Island & SFNE, GASM @ SFGAdv, Ninja @ SFoG, Mind Eraser, etc.), but all of them are smooth as butter compared to SOB (regardless of where you sit).
 
I can't believe you left out Wild Beast! And Iron Wolf isn't that rough compared to some other stand-ups I've ridden.

Wild Beast was painful ON the ride though, it didn't actually leave me feeling like I was in pain/with a headache after I got off. Son of Beast gave me a dull ache in my head/back for a little while after. Wild Beast is still down in my bottom like, twenty coasters though, right next to Son of Beast.
 

Snoo

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rollerdude said:
^But the thing, Furie, is that the ride isn't piss poor. It isn't bad at all, it's just not good. They're all faffing over the ride because they're spoiled with their glass smooth B&Ms, and especially Intamins at CP, and have too high of a standard set every time they ride a wooden coaster. They need to toughen up a bit and take a rattling, even one as rattling as SOB.

Well.. actually it is piss poor. It isn't that I don't like the roughness, well it mostly is, but the ride simply sucks. There is no airtime, the bowls are pointless and boring, and the best element on the ride is gone.
 

valleyfair!

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Don't know how much of a milestone it really is especially since the coaster was nothing special at all but I got my first coaster outside of the US yesterday.

Sahara Twist, Leofoo Village
 

Antinos

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Tomorrow, I'll be riding my 200th coaster, Joker's Jinx.

Too bad PLCP decided to take S:ROS as his 100th...
 

Snoo

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^Of course he can't. But, he said he would be making both of theirs #200/#100 on S:RoS.

I pity them. I woulda picked Roar.
 

Antinos

Slut for Spinners
Yes, our 200th and 100th were both on Superman: Ride of Steel today. Pat rode Joker's Jinx and I rode it later on today.
 
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