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Election 2010!

Lord Harris gives money to them so yes he supports them, again a very rich man.

But sorry to say they sold out and are on the stock market so the better they do the better the share holders do, and I am not one of them as I am just a worker :)

We have a talk on Thursday as well, a political one needless to say, will be interesting to hear what they say though.

Lord Harris is very pro Europe as well, seeing that we now have stores in Holland and Belgium we did try Poland but that failed.
 
ciallkennett said:
Undecided who to vote for? Here's a handy tip which tells you what party YOU are!:

http://votematch.org.uk/

Answer a few questions, and it'll tell you what % each party you are!

EDIT: My results:


UK Independence Party:62%
Labour Party: 52%
Green Party: 47%
British National Party: 46%
Liberal Democrats: 45%
Conservative Party: 36%

Best Match:
UK Independence Party

HELL NO!

V maybe I missed it? I haven't seen it in the topic :S
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Heres mine:

British National Party:57%
UK Independence Party:55%
Labour Party:45%
Conservative Party:39%
Green Party:30%
Liberal Democrats:19%

Wtf? I hate the BNP, and Lib Dems are my favourite!
 
ciallkennett said:
^ The Lib Dems are going to have to find that money somewhere. I think they stated where from, but I can't remember where...
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Have a look at my post on Page 10 - answered in full!

I thought you had an argument for a second there Ciall :p.

ciallkennett said:
And Labour have made vast improvements on education from all age ranges since they have been in power. Ok, it may not seem like it, but look back 15 years ago, and the standard of education has dramatically increased and is still continuing to do so. It was Labour who opened up many thousands more Uni places and, ultimately opened up this opportunity for many people who otherwise wouldn't have given a second thought to Uni.
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"Standard of education has dramatically increased" - by which yardsticks?

More students pass their GCSEs these days, with higher grades. One of the reasons is that GCSEs are very different now to when they first appeared in 1987. Whether this is good or not is a debate to itself - it's certainly devalued the worth of GCSEs in the workplace.

Complaints from Unis about the abilities of new undergraduates have risen massively - it's an acknowledged problem for recent students following on from A-Levels.

The increase in Uni places is interesting. Labour have certainly delivered their promise for the most part, apart from last year where it started to go wrong - there was actually a decrease in the percentage of people applying to university who then were accepted onto a course, a trend which will probably continue.

Is the rise in Uni places (from about 5% of students to 45%) a good policy? Yes in terms of opportunity, no in terms of broad degree quality, levels of student debt and the value of degrees in the workplace.

Labour have absolutely ****ed-up in schools though. It's been change after change since they got in, never settling on a consistent approach, burdening teachers with absurd levels of bureaucracy inside an ever tightening straight-jacket, turning schools into target-meeting machines and making 11-year old terrified of exams, all while basic literacy levels have dropped. Way to go!
 
I was going to steer well clear of this topic, but I saw someone defending Labour on education so I have to jump on in.

I'm 22, I went to a very under funded secondary school, where I spent a vast amount of time having the **** beaten out of me (wasn't all one way traffic mind you,) because teachers were scared ****less of students and could do nothing about any of them. Some subjects we would go through 3/4 teachers a year, as they would break down and leave due to stress. I really did feel sorry for alot of them.

I then went to college, where I started to do my A-levels. I was about 3 months into a course (intensive Politics) when they cut it due to budget cuts. Just turned up one day and was told "we can't afford this course, go home." I was so pissed off that I turned my back on college and didn't go back.

Recently I spent about 6 months trying to find a way into higher education. I can't get in, inless I want to spend two years (part time,) and alot of money that I honestly do not have, doing an access course in a subject that I have absolutely no interest in at all.

This is a very brief post as I'm on my way out the door when I decided to reply, but in short, I will never trust labour on education again.
 
Candidates for Chelmsford:

Candidates
Name Party
Mike Bateman British National Party
Claire Breed English Democrats
Simon Burns Conservative
Peter Dixon Labour
Stephen Robinson Liberal Democrat
Ben Sherman Reduce Tax On Beer
Angela Thomson Green
Ken Wedon UK Independence Party
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:p

But I don't drink, so meh.

I'm still quite undecided on who to vote for. I've always liked the Lib Dems as a sort of underdog party, but now they've become popular in the last few weeks so I'm thinking otherwise. :p

Also, a woman is offended from being called a bigot? She probably IS a bigot. Look at her ffs! :roll:
 
I actually admire Brown's honesty...albeit the first time he's actually said the truth in public!

The fact is that all all party leaders think you're a bigot unless you agree with them.

Brown evidently doesn't give a toss, privately educated Dave is too posh and rich to care about the proles and also privately educated Cl*gg is too rich and entwined in Europe to give a **** about the British!

Whoever ends up on top next week, Britain is ****ed for at least another five years. If anybody thinks "change" will happen must be deluded. It's just a case of picking the best of a bad bunch.
 
^I thought you weren't bothered Ian :p.

It's not the label ("bigoted woman"), although he's judged her pretty quickly off one comment, it's the way he's speaking to her all nicey nicey one minute and then slagging her off as soon as he's out of earshot! It makes him a liar.

Of course a lot of politicians are currently smarming their way around the populace and being two-faced in the process.

But there's absolutely NO evidence that Clegg would think or say the same in that specific situation -if you think otherwise it's your own preconceptions you're applying.

I'd love to lump Cameron in with Brown but I don't have the hard evidence! We do of course now have the proof from Brown....

That Labour tactic of getting Brown to mingle with more "ordinary people" hasn't exactly worked has it :lol:.
 
^ I'm bored of the electioneering but stuff like this makes me smile.

Cl*gg and Dave are too rehearsed and PR polished to make such a mistake...more so now.
 
Cameron gaffed by saying we had to protect ourselves from getting nuked by China, but that wasn't very personal. This one is very personal.

Love the pic when he found out:

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The actual conversation was:

Mrs Duffy: "We had it drummed in when I was a child with mine … it was education, health service and looking after the people who are vulnerable. But there's too many people now who are vulnerable but they can claim and people who are vulnerable can't get claim, can't get it."

Brown: "But they shouldn't be doing that, there is no life on the dole for people any more. If you are unemployed you've got to go back to work. It's six months…"

Mrs Duffy: "You can't say anything about the immigrants because you're saying that you're … but all these eastern European what are coming in, where are they flocking from?"

I don't think those statements make her a "bigoted woman" - right or wrong, she's expressing an apparently popular sentiment about immigrants and benefits, in a not-very-well-put way.

If you want to be PM you don't go slagging off the public for having a weakly expressed opinion...
 
...but all these eastern European what are coming in, where are they flocking from?"
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Haha, eastern Europe perhaps, love?

Brown has gone up in my estimation. Still not voting Labour though.
 
Me and 2 or 3 others at school who are politics geeks have organised for some of the candidates for MK South to come to our school and allow us to put questions to them :)

We should be having Phyllis Starkey (Lab and current elected MP), Iain Stewart (con - My personal Fav) and a few others coming in just for us 6th formers to put questions to them.

I'm glad they're coming and I get to escort them around our school :D
 
Good on Gordon Brown.

Mrs. Duffy is an old bag who stupidly believes whatever she's told to believe by whatever old rag of a "news" paper she skims through occasionally.

He should have done a John Prescott, and punched her in the face.
 
ciallkennett said:
Me and 2 or 3 others at school who are politics geeks have organised for some of the candidates for MK South to come to our school and allow us to put questions to them :)

We should be having Phyllis Starkey (Lab and current elected MP), Iain Stewart (con - My personal Fav) and a few others coming in just for us 6th formers to put questions to them.

I'm glad they're coming and I get to escort them around our school :D
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We had this at our school. We had about 5 or 6 candidates there, and it got in the local paper.
 
ciallkennett said:
Me and 2 or 3 others at school who are politics geeks have organised for some of the candidates for MK South to come to our school and allow us to put questions to them :)
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Well done Ciall! Excellent effort considering you're not eligible to vote :) (yet - "Lib Dems reduce voting age to 16" FTW hehe).

Marc was talking about donations earlier.

In the first week of campaigning, donations to the parties were:-

• Labour: £780,000
• Conservative: £1,450,000
• Lib Dems: £20,000

In the second week:-

• Labour: £1,500,000
• Conservative: £2,200,000
• Lib Dems: £120,000

Considering it's not a level playing field, the Lib Dems have done fantastically well so far with their campaigning - whereas the Conservatives and Labour have had literally MILLIONS more and gone backwards!

Lots of the Conservative money went on posters which haven't really worked. A smirking Gordon Brown just puts you off Brown, it doesn't say "Vote Tory" (they probably assumed at the start they were in a 2-horse race).

Then the new one near my house says: "WE'LL CUT BENEFITS TO THOSE WHO REFUSE TO WORK." Lol yes, cutting benefits in an area of low employment and high benefits uptake will go down REALLY well in Swansea! Total waste of money, but then they have it to burn apparently.
 
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