Yeah, I'm with Jordan on this - I don't even particularly *like* this ride type, but if you ask me to name a CP coaster, it's always going to be in one of the first three out of my mouth. I still haven't given up on the idea of a trip in late Spring, but this has made me less interested.Maybe for you if you’ve been plenty of times but for others who’ve never been it’s a HUGE reason to visit. When I had my first trip back in 2019 Maverick and Steel Vengeance were open but which coaster was I most excited to get on? Dragster. It’s an iconic coaster years and years after opening, I think it’s naive to underestimate its pulling power just because they’ve had new things since.
Yes. For this enthusiast anyway.For a comparable example - if Nemesis was down, would it stop some of us lot visiting?
*looks around room and bashfully looks at the ground*
… so, if they were to like, I dunno, swap the hydraulic system fit an LSM launch…
*looks up at the ceiling, beating around the bush*
… like, what would that take?
Didn't they consider this initially, but determine that the launch track with a magnetic launch would have to be much longer to get up enough speed for a 400' top hat? I seem to remember hearing that but I don't remember where, so it could have been a load of B.S.*looks around room and bashfully looks at the ground*
… so, if they were to like, I dunno, swap the hydraulic system fit an LSM launch…
*looks up at the ceiling, beating around the bush*
… like, what would that take?
*looks around room and bashfully looks at the ground*
… so, if they were to like, I dunno, swap the hydraulic system fit an LSM launch…
*looks up at the ceiling, beating around the bush*
… like, what would that take?
Didn't they consider this initially, but determine that the launch track with a magnetic launch would have to be much longer to get up enough speed for a 400' top hat? I seem to remember hearing that but I don't remember where, so it could have been a load of B.S.
What else is the off-season for?Completely unprofessional guess around 10 million. Could also be 20. Maybe it's not even technically possible? Our task as enthusiasts is speculation not engineering.
To my best recollection, it was always going to be hydraulic - hence the initial piloting of the launch system with Xcelerator. A perk of hydraulic definitely remains on being able to fit faster launches into small space amount. LSMs also hadn't really appeared onto the scene as a launch system of choice until the later 00s; while (at least as best I know) LIMs still pack the highest-powered-punch - a perk to LSM is they also provide their own braking as safety measure.Didn't they consider this initially, but determine that the launch track with a magnetic launch would have to be much longer to get up enough speed for a 400' top hat? I seem to remember hearing that but I don't remember where, so it could have been a load of B.S.
To offer a counter perspective - I don't understand the "matter of factness" that the ride would close for good off the accident? To be honest (and frank) - it was a pretty non-existent story, that gratefully didn't result in death or proven negligence of the park. Insinuating this is a "stain" on TTD is an overstatement, or at least has really not made waves in the regional zeitgeist - majority don't even have a clue anything happened. Or at least, how is tarnished reputation any better explanation versus the park taking a genuine year of maintenance/TLC after having forgone regular maintenance regiment for nearly 2 years?I don't get the optimism that the ride will ever be the same.
Not only this, but LSMs do not scale as well with higher speeds as hydraulics do. This means, that you would need to stretch out the launch track by a signifcant amount, just for the train to be able to clear the Top hat. Just have a look at Red Force which needs about twice as long to reach a lower speed compared to TTD.I do believe turning it into a LSM launch would perhaps be more effort than its worth- Red Force and Taron were pretty unreliable in themselves.. Why spend millions on completely binning the ENTIRE launch system for tons of money to convert your very unreliable coaster to a pretty unreliable ride.
Retching noises.After examining the documentation provided and conducting interviews of Cedar Point staff, ODA found no evidence that Cedar Point had knowledge of or reason to believe that the Top Thrill Dragster was in an unsafe condition that could cause a hazard to riders, employees, or the public on August 15, 2021.
*looks around room and bashfully looks at the ground*
… so, if they were to like, I dunno, swap the hydraulic system fit an LSM launch…
*looks up at the ceiling, beating around the bush*
… like, what would that take?
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Yeah i was thinking you would modify the uphill part of the top hat so that the track remains straight vertical for most of the way up, and then twists 90 degrees as late as possible when the train has slowed down more.They would need to replace the entirety of the launch track with new track built to accommodate the stators. May or may not need to replace some of the track up the incline in order to allow for additional stators. The trains would need to be either heavily modified or altogether replaced to accommodate the stators. The brake run would also likely need to be updated to the more modern fin arrangement. And then the entire controls system would pretty much need to be redone.
The track replacement, stators, brake modifications, and controls would probably be in the neighborhood of $3-5 million. New trains will also cost a pretty penny. That could easily be another $3-5 million. I would imagine it'd be on the lower end, but trains are insanely expensive.
Heck! Why don't we throw in the possibility of having S&S redoing the track and going with a pneumatic launch more powerful than Dodonpa. that would make the enthusiasts blow their mind.*looks around room and bashfully looks at the ground*
… so, if they were to like, I dunno, swap the hydraulic system fit an LSM launch…
*looks up at the ceiling, beating around the bush*
… like, what would that take?
That would be neat! But then again there is also a catchcar and a launch cable involved which wouldn't lower the threat potential. So i sadly don't see them go the extra mile to invest in that.Heck! Why don't we throw in the possibility of having S&S redoing the track and going with a pneumatic launch more powerful than Dodonpa. that would make the enthusiasts blow their mind.