AT's Enterprise to be replaced...
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owentaylor121
Giga Poster
I think enterprise is great in it's location and it's a fairly o.k ride, but Submission on the other hand is even more unpopular than Enterprise, plus it's awful. Why don't they use the to money to get rid of this?
EnigmaHyena
Hyper Poster
Afterburners never really look like they swing too high, and they're virtually silent from a distance so maybe that'd be a more sensible replacement given their restrictions instead of a Topscan? It'd keep the spinning/swirling theme consistent too.
Jake
Strata Poster
There were rumours for a while that they were going to replace blade with one of these things:
Nothing ever happened, but it would be quite a good idea.
I quite like Enterprises to be honest. Yeah, they're 10 a penny, but I love the novelty of not having restraints on what is actually quite an intense ride.
Out of all the ancient, ghetto flats at Alton it's probably the best. The flat situation at the park is dreadful though and really lets the place down. You'd think with all the restrictions they have, they'd be a bit more creative with their flats...
Ripsaw and Submission <//////3.
Nothing ever happened, but it would be quite a good idea.
I quite like Enterprises to be honest. Yeah, they're 10 a penny, but I love the novelty of not having restraints on what is actually quite an intense ride.
Out of all the ancient, ghetto flats at Alton it's probably the best. The flat situation at the park is dreadful though and really lets the place down. You'd think with all the restrictions they have, they'd be a bit more creative with their flats...
Ripsaw and Submission <//////3.
FaceYourNemesis
Hyper Poster
^Ripsaw has so much potential, but as usual is let down by the crappy program. If you ask nicely, the ride ops will treat you to something other than cycle "7".
Lofty
CF Legend
^ Actually, no they won't, they used to, the ride operators aren't allowed to choose the setting anymore, which is a shame.
I totally agree with Jake about the flat ride scenario at Alton. The ones that they do have are so mediocre and old, they just don't have any ride factor to them. I can't think of the last time I went to Alton and HAD to get on a flat ride. They've just got no pull to them to entice me on them.
I totally agree with Jake about the flat ride scenario at Alton. The ones that they do have are so mediocre and old, they just don't have any ride factor to them. I can't think of the last time I went to Alton and HAD to get on a flat ride. They've just got no pull to them to entice me on them.
Colossus
Giga Poster
Lofty said:
I agree with this totally, they are neither terrible nor exciting, just a bit meh, really.
Apart from Submission, which is a vile contraption. and Ripsaw which I will ride occasionally, other than that I cannot remember the last time I rode, Enterprise, Blade or any other flat. (Is there anymore?)
Still haven't rode NST either.
I think the oddest thing (and possibly an explanation) is that the flats are so well themed and fit in with the areas. As naff/old/hideous as they are, they kind of work. Enterprise looks superb when it rises next to the Oblivion track, it's such a wonderful aesthetic. Submission also looked excellent when running both arms and they both fit that kind of "scifi" theme they have going on.
Blade looks excellent with the guillotine effect in the dystopian Forbidden Valley and Ripsaw with the bombed out building facade also works where it is for similar reasons.
But, they're still old/naff/hideous and very infrequently garner long queues.
Blade looks excellent with the guillotine effect in the dystopian Forbidden Valley and Ripsaw with the bombed out building facade also works where it is for similar reasons.
But, they're still old/naff/hideous and very infrequently garner long queues.
Nic
Strata Poster
How much of this is because we go to a lot of parks so are used to seeing them though? Sure, to us, it's just another Top Spin, just another Enterprise etc. Do the GP see them in the same way? Of course many people will realise they're the same as ones they've seen elsewhere, but will they be as bored of them as we are? Note that none of us have even mentioned the rockin' tug, or the tea cups yet.
I agree that none of the flats at Alton really give a particularly big thrilling experience. However, without them, I wonder if there would really be all that much for the younger ones to do? Crucially, it also gives a few slightly more family rides in areas that are otherwise just for teens/adults. This is something they need to address at Alton as otherwise families spend the day separated. Removing rides like Blade would only make it worse. The last thing I'd want to see is for Alton to become another Thorpe.
I agree that none of the flats at Alton really give a particularly big thrilling experience. However, without them, I wonder if there would really be all that much for the younger ones to do? Crucially, it also gives a few slightly more family rides in areas that are otherwise just for teens/adults. This is something they need to address at Alton as otherwise families spend the day separated. Removing rides like Blade would only make it worse. The last thing I'd want to see is for Alton to become another Thorpe.
Martyn B
CF Legend
Blade is only really mentioned amongst the flats becauses the actual selection is so poor, so the generic Pirate ship gets counted as one of the major flats (how often is that Banana boat at Thorpe mentioned?). But you're right, it's a good familiy ride and should stay. But it's time to replace the other 3 in my opinion (the newest of which is coming upto to 12 years old, and that's some time for a flat ride, especially at one of Europes best theme parks).
On the other side of the coin, look at a place like Port Aventura. The flats there are all very old. Mexican Hats, Alpine Bob ride, erm, I can't remember the others because they were all pants.
Look at Disney, in Paris there are three "Dumbo" rides between the two parks and a 10 minute walk. It's not about the age or ride type, it's about how they integrate into the parks and fit within the themed zones.
Though you do have to ignore the fact that Alton fails to have as solid area consistency as the other two parks
Nic is right though, they do form (a lot of the time) the basis for enjoyment from a family perspective. It's just, well, they seem part of the scenery rather than anything else these days and they rarely ever do get a long queue.
Look at Disney, in Paris there are three "Dumbo" rides between the two parks and a 10 minute walk. It's not about the age or ride type, it's about how they integrate into the parks and fit within the themed zones.
Though you do have to ignore the fact that Alton fails to have as solid area consistency as the other two parks
Nic is right though, they do form (a lot of the time) the basis for enjoyment from a family perspective. It's just, well, they seem part of the scenery rather than anything else these days and they rarely ever do get a long queue.
nadroJ
CF Legend
I can't remember the last time I went on a flat at Alton. I enjoy topspins, but never go on Ripsaw.
They really need some new, modern flat rides that people haven't seen elsewhere.
Omg, they should get one of those things like Pandemonium at Drayton where you're not allowed to scream, they're fab <3
They really need some new, modern flat rides that people haven't seen elsewhere.
Omg, they should get one of those things like Pandemonium at Drayton where you're not allowed to scream, they're fab <3
rich210uk
Mega Poster
^ Same as, in fact I just realised we totally forgot about any of the flats on our last visit to AT. I can’t remember the last time we did go on any of them, they just past us by and not worth queuing for. Its hard to explain but for me the flats make the park feel like a travelling fun fair and not a modern theme park.
