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Nic
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Ohhhhhhh, like a moebius type thing? I did also wonder that when I first saw the plans, but I can't really see the point if you're only duelling another car for half the track. Unless you start and finish in the station at the same time, would anyone even notice?bob_3_ said:
coasterdude_1
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Guys, it's been touched on but this is clearly a duelling coaster (a la Dragons challenge, with the exception that it's Mobius). I mean, seriously, the inversions are clearly designed to interlock (especially the wicked looking cobra roll batwing..)
It looks intamin Blitz- the first lift could be LSM with the second a launch into the vertical rise (or just a vertical lift)
But here, on the worlds first side, theyll clearly be leveraging off the duelling thing- it's so clearly obvious. Worlds first dueling launched coaster (is this a first?)
Either way, I don't think ANYONE expected this. It just looks so much better than we've come to expect from UK theme parks....
Guys, it's been touched on but this is clearly a duelling coaster (a la Dragons challenge, with the exception that it's Mobius). I mean, seriously, the inversions are clearly designed to interlock (especially the wicked looking cobra roll batwing..)
It looks intamin Blitz- the first lift could be LSM with the second a launch into the vertical rise (or just a vertical lift)
But here, on the worlds first side, theyll clearly be leveraging off the duelling thing- it's so clearly obvious. Worlds first dueling launched coaster (is this a first?)
Either way, I don't think ANYONE expected this. It just looks so much better than we've come to expect from UK theme parks....
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
It's still look cool for a short while
To be honest, I doubt I'll care for the ride in the slightest. How it rides though is much less important (in this instance) than what they've got away with. A multi-looper at Alton? Never, and surely not there?
It proves that they are still trying to think out of the box in terms of pushing boundaries and giving guests something new. We know we're never going to get a megalite or B&M Hyper over here, so what we want is something more than just another spinning wild mouse or something and that's what they're giving us. Sadly, I doubt we'll be satisfied as enthusiasts as far as the ride quality goes, but in terms of what it means for development (and there are still at least 2-3 potential coaster sites left at Alton for something else this may give promise to), it's important and exciting
It's NOT a Möbius coaster, there's only one track in and one track out of the station. You can see where the first half leads into the second vertical lift. It may "duel" for a short while, but not as a Möbius.
Nic said:
It's still look cool for a short while
Nicky said:
To be honest, I doubt I'll care for the ride in the slightest. How it rides though is much less important (in this instance) than what they've got away with. A multi-looper at Alton? Never, and surely not there?
It proves that they are still trying to think out of the box in terms of pushing boundaries and giving guests something new. We know we're never going to get a megalite or B&M Hyper over here, so what we want is something more than just another spinning wild mouse or something and that's what they're giving us. Sadly, I doubt we'll be satisfied as enthusiasts as far as the ride quality goes, but in terms of what it means for development (and there are still at least 2-3 potential coaster sites left at Alton for something else this may give promise to), it's important and exciting
It's NOT a Möbius coaster, there's only one track in and one track out of the station. You can see where the first half leads into the second vertical lift. It may "duel" for a short while, but not as a Möbius.
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
I definatly remember Thirteen's planning permission comparing the noise to X:\No Way Out - yet we ended up with Intamin rather than Vekoma, albeit similar ride types. X:\ is the only other ride type similar to Thirteen that Merlin own so its was logical to take the noise recordings from there.
I think we can expect to see the same here. If this is the case, expect to see something similar, not necessarily the same, to a eurofighter. As Spicy said, I can also see this being a Maurer X-Car, especially since support work is identical to that which we've seen from previous Maurer rides (HRRR.) A X-Car is also similar to a eurofighter (small, lightweight, manouverable trains) which fits the comparison to Saw for sound tests.
I think hoping for an Intamin is a little optimistic given the compact tight layout, which is much more suited to the likes of an X-Car or Eurofighter.
As for capacity, Thorpe manage fine with a Eurofighter due to dual loading, lots of block segments e.t.c. There is no reason why Alton can't do the same.
Either way looks pretty awesome.
Nic said:
I definatly remember Thirteen's planning permission comparing the noise to X:\No Way Out - yet we ended up with Intamin rather than Vekoma, albeit similar ride types. X:\ is the only other ride type similar to Thirteen that Merlin own so its was logical to take the noise recordings from there.
I think we can expect to see the same here. If this is the case, expect to see something similar, not necessarily the same, to a eurofighter. As Spicy said, I can also see this being a Maurer X-Car, especially since support work is identical to that which we've seen from previous Maurer rides (HRRR.) A X-Car is also similar to a eurofighter (small, lightweight, manouverable trains) which fits the comparison to Saw for sound tests.
I think hoping for an Intamin is a little optimistic given the compact tight layout, which is much more suited to the likes of an X-Car or Eurofighter.
As for capacity, Thorpe manage fine with a Eurofighter due to dual loading, lots of block segments e.t.c. There is no reason why Alton can't do the same.
Either way looks pretty awesome.
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Crazycoaster
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There is no beyond vertical drop in the layout?
There is no beyond vertical drop in the layout?
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Well based on my experience, albeit limited, I'd much rather it were a Eurofighter than X-Car.
I have to say, it does look like a pretty damn good layout. I might actually pay attention to this developing, unlike most other things recently.
Well based on my experience, albeit limited, I'd much rather it were a Eurofighter than X-Car.
I have to say, it does look like a pretty damn good layout. I might actually pay attention to this developing, unlike most other things recently.
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
I really was not expecting this! I dont think ive ever been this excited for a new ride before. This has the potential to be one of the most significant coasters installed in the uk for over a decade
That 195 metre height will more than likely be from sea level as that is the standard benchmark. And i really cant see them getting such an important figure wrong!
I really was not expecting this! I dont think ive ever been this excited for a new ride before. This has the potential to be one of the most significant coasters installed in the uk for over a decade
aliman said:on news page is says 195 metres? isn't that 600 foot high or so!?!?!
That 195 metre height will more than likely be from sea level as that is the standard benchmark. And i really cant see them getting such an important figure wrong!
Intimidator 305
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
WOW 195m high break a new world high record and 14 inversions and the wirlds first rotating seats this is the european Takabisha Ride
WOW 195m high break a new world high record and 14 inversions and the wirlds first rotating seats this is the european Takabisha Ride
Nemesis Inferno
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Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
Hmmmm if it's ANYTHING like Fluch then this will be amazing... But it's more like Fuji-Q's thing than that... Or Saw for that matter...
Not sure on it atm, hard to tell anything from the plans that will conclusively (to me at least) say whether or not it will be good or awful...
nealbie said:
Hmmmm if it's ANYTHING like Fluch then this will be amazing... But it's more like Fuji-Q's thing than that... Or Saw for that matter...
Not sure on it atm, hard to tell anything from the plans that will conclusively (to me at least) say whether or not it will be good or awful...
Re: New "world's first" coaster at Alton Towers 2013
People, can we do something about the CF home page? Don't get me wrong, it's great they we've got the news up first (well before screamscape, etc. anyway) but I think we could be a little more careful with the reporting. We have just about shaken off the "CoasterFarce" label now, I don't want it coming back.
"Alton Towers plans a Eurofighter!" - this is pure speculation isn't it? I think Maurer is equally likely at this stage. Personally I would doubt Intamin though. I think Alton weren't happy about the enforced mods on Rita and they definitely don't enjoy the "performance issues" on Th13teen.
The 195m thing also reads bad. Nobody talks about coaster heights in terms of ordnance datum so either pick the actual ride height off the drawings or say nothing.
Saying it "features a vertical drop" is also highly likely to be wrong. Assuming the straight 45 degree track is a lift hill, the vertical track will be taken upwards, not downwards. This stands to reason as the 'pull out' (if it was a drop) is far too tight for me. I'm wondering if it might be a launch section... 'World's First Vertical Launch' anyone...? (yes I know there's probably some old Premier ride with a vertical launch out there already but they were around when Oblivion was the world's first vertical drop so it's never stopped Alton before).
Anyway, that's just speculation not fact. There's an important difference which seems to have been forgotten on the CF homepage at the moment...
People, can we do something about the CF home page? Don't get me wrong, it's great they we've got the news up first (well before screamscape, etc. anyway) but I think we could be a little more careful with the reporting. We have just about shaken off the "CoasterFarce" label now, I don't want it coming back.
"Alton Towers plans a Eurofighter!" - this is pure speculation isn't it? I think Maurer is equally likely at this stage. Personally I would doubt Intamin though. I think Alton weren't happy about the enforced mods on Rita and they definitely don't enjoy the "performance issues" on Th13teen.
The 195m thing also reads bad. Nobody talks about coaster heights in terms of ordnance datum so either pick the actual ride height off the drawings or say nothing.
Saying it "features a vertical drop" is also highly likely to be wrong. Assuming the straight 45 degree track is a lift hill, the vertical track will be taken upwards, not downwards. This stands to reason as the 'pull out' (if it was a drop) is far too tight for me. I'm wondering if it might be a launch section... 'World's First Vertical Launch' anyone...? (yes I know there's probably some old Premier ride with a vertical launch out there already but they were around when Oblivion was the world's first vertical drop so it's never stopped Alton before).
Anyway, that's just speculation not fact. There's an important difference which seems to have been forgotten on the CF homepage at the moment...
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