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Liseberg | Valkyria | B&M Dive Coaster

Discussion in 'Roller Coaster Construction' started by roomraider, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. Chris Brown

    Chris Brown Mr CoasterForce 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    I thought Oblivion TBH was pretty average. Drop, immelmann, poor airtime hill restricted by OTSR's, bland helix and an average zero g, done. Shiekra is the superior ride by far. Not enough elements in these things IMO and vertical drops are a bit redundant now. Agree with Lofty that it'll be a success and is a good addition for the park but in the grand scheme of things its a bit 'meh' when compared to other 2018 creds.
     
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    Smithy Well-Known Member

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    Keep thinking you're all saying Oblivion to be honest and it's hurting my head.
     
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    Same.

    Here is a list of acceptable names for Oblivion: The Black Hole

    Oblivion 2
    Italian Oblivion
    Gardaland's Oblivion
    White Oblivion
    :emoji_zipper_mouth: Oblivion
     
  4. TilenB

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    Can we call it Gardablivion?

    Poslano z mojega ONEPLUS A3003 z uporabo Tapatalk
     
  5. Ben

    Ben Best SM Team Member 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    You missed Blivs TBH and Oblivion The Snoo Hole.
     
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    mouse Well-Known Member

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    Although I haven't actually ridden it yet, I don't think Oblivion tbh is as good as Oblivion tbh.
     
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    Oblivion 2 is definately better than Oblivion 1. Not by much but it is overall a bit better.

    Still no where near 17 years worth of improvement though.
     
  8. Pink Cadillac

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    The original is bestest. I haven't ridden the black hole, but I've already made my mind up and nothings gonna to change it! Dive machines get boring after the drop and apart from acting as a wind down from the thrill of the drop, these post drop elements hold little merit.
     
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    But with that logic, every single (traditional) coaster winds down from it's initial drop/launch? Why does having more of a layout become a negative thing purely because it has a more thrilling drop?
     
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    Lofty Social Media Team Staff Member Social Media Team

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    Oblivion The Black Hole is fab, it just offers so much more than Oblivion. I don't even mean in terms of physically, by track length and elements, but in terms of fluctuation of forces - it's brilliant.
     
  11. Pink Cadillac

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    It can be negative if it's not really adding anything of interest to the experience. I don't need b&m wing-tier inversions on MY coaster. :p That said the entry into the hole is a bigger issue, but I don't care for these extra lumbering inversions and extra drops and extra helixes.
    When I say winds down, I mean it more as 'excitement' rather than speed/height.
     
  12. Smithy

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    It's alright Mouse, I got it ;)
     
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    Hixee Most Knowledgeable Member 2016 Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    POV posted to the Liseberg Facebook this morning:

     
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    The layout reminds me of that of a wing coaster, but with a vertical drop. Very happy to see a dive coaster with a layout that actually looks unique!
     
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    Wow, that seems as though it could be the best 6 seated dive yet, it's got a long (for a dive), fairly original layout, and looks like it will be a great addition! I guess we can assume that valkyria is a play or translation in the word Valkyrie, which is a Norse God who chooses who live and dies in battle.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie
    So the theme is most likely going to centre around Norse mythology.
     
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    Valkyria reminds me a bit of Oblivion: The Black Hole except a little longer, and possibly better pacing. It seems to have the potential to be the best dive yet. Once again, great work by Liseberg.
     
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    Ian From CoasterForce Staff Member Administrator Moderator Social Media Team CF Award Winner 2016

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    Isn't it gorgeous? The flow is so perfect that I almost cried.
     
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    To make way for Valkyria the Fairy Tale Castle (Sagoslottet) dark ride will also be demolished and the Wave Swinger relocated in the park. The park have said the Fairy Tale Castle will be replaced with a new similar dark ride in a few years time.

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    New concept images.
     
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    omfg that's going to look :emoji_zipper_mouth:ing stunning.
     

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