Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
More trims... :/
Yes, that's what everyone wants, because otherwise this coaster will be completely bonkersMore trims... :/
Yes, that's what everyone wants, because otherwise this coaster will be completely bonkers
This, exactly this... The 'length' as such didn't bother me, it's not much shorter than Zadra... But if it means it's packed with multiple trim elements, then isn't that just lazy, bad, design? I mean surely the aim when designing any 'thrill' coaster layout is to use 'all' of the available momentum to give riders the maximum amount of thrill without putting them in danger. If you need to use trim so often and so early, to keep things safe, then the energy spent getting the train up so high was wasted.Magnetic trims though aren’t they so can’t be turned off?
I really don’t like seeing them on a drop like that. I Just hope they aren’t noticeable like on Thirteen where you physically feel the train deceleration during the drop, don’t even mind that it’s slowing down it just doesn’t feel nice being forced into the lap bar.
I worry at the speeds Hyperia will be doing these trims could feel way worse.
I wasn’t bothered by the shortness of the layout but it’s having a knock on effect where there isn’t enough track or elements to naturally kill the speed so it’s got to be trimmed.
I just hope there aren’t any on the first drop.
The first drop's pretty twisted so they'd either have to be at the top or the bottom. And the base of the drop has already been installed (with no trims) so I think/hope we're in the clear.I just hope there aren’t any on the first drop.
(Hypothetically speaking, we don't know yet how hard these trims will hit, or if they'll negatively impact the ride.) You can't blame the park, or the budget, for the design of the coaster. (Or Merlin for that matter, though I expect you will try. )Of course if you only have a limited budget for a ride and use most of that making it taller the length will be effected & that trains gonna have to be kept in check through the layout otherwise its definitely gonna overspeed.
The more I see go up the more I wonder if it would of been better being shorter but with a longer layout
Even just looking at photos like these showing the massive scale of the ride, it's just disappointing that after the dive loop, which will still be huge, the ride just ends after 1-2 elements.Apologies for my crude handiwork but I thought some of you lot might be interested in this.
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I drew the rest of Hyperia's layout into this recent photo from Attraction Source and it really puts this ride's massive size into perspective. Saw looks tiny!
RMC build equally extreme elements and have never used trims as far as I'm aware. That's why we love their rides so much.The trims are right before a pretty extreme element never seen before on a coaster. It’s the most extreme outer bank we’ve ever seen on a ride so far. It seems like good design to me that they would build in a safety feature that can be used to slow the train down, if for some reason it ends up travelling through this element faster than expected. They may be negligible and hardly hit. But they may be needed once it comes to testing. Better to have them just in case in my opinion.
Depends on the coaster type. On a B&M, they're variable and can be adjusted automatically. These brakes are simply a metal (copper?) fin mounted to the track, so the only way to have them not slow the train down is to get up on a lift and physically remove them. This is definitely a "just in case" situation, I expect they'll start testing with no trims there and add a few if the next element is overspeeding.Magnetic trims though aren’t they so can’t be turned off?
This is what I'm looking out for. I would have thought if there's gonna be extra trims anywhere, it would be at the top right before the twist. Hopefully not.I just hope there aren’t any on the first drop.
You've literally just described bad design... Designing an element that they're not entirely sure will be safe would be terrible design.The trims are right before a pretty extreme element never seen before on a coaster. It’s the most extreme outer bank we’ve ever seen on a ride so far. It seems like good design to me that they would build in a safety feature that can be used to slow the train down, if for some reason it ends up travelling through this element faster than expected. They may be negligible and hardly hit. But they may be needed once it comes to testing. Better to have them just in case in my opinion.
You've literally just described bad design... Designing an element that they're not entirely sure will be safe would be terrible design.
However, a slightly more realistic possibility is that the speeds the train would be hitting that element at are dependant, to some extent, on conditions, such as temperature... Hopefully the trims are adjustable (though this seems unlikely) and will only be needed in the most extreme, speed enhancing, conditions.
No it's not the same thing at all, I took issue with it being implied that the brakes were a 'just in case' measure as the suggestion was that they weren't sure how it'd ride... To quote...You’ve literally just said the same thing. It’s there to ensure the ride is running through this element at the intended speed, if for some reason (weather conditions etc) the train is running slightly faster.
Big difference between implying that they need trims due to them not knowing how this 'never before seen extreme element' will ride, and them needing trims because they 'know' it will be too fast in certain conditions... BIG difference.The trims are right before a pretty extreme element never seen before on a coaster. It’s the most extreme outer bank we’ve ever seen on a ride so far. It seems like good design to me that they would build in a safety feature that can be used to slow the train down, if for some reason it ends up travelling through this element faster than expected. They may be negligible and hardly hit. But they may be needed once it comes to testing. Better to have them just in case in my opinion.
Big difference between implying that they need trims due to them not knowing how this 'never before seen extreme element' will ride, and them needing trims because they 'know' it will be too fast in certain conditions... BIG difference.