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Shenyang PTR Day 2: More Crap and Hot Go Park

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Brace yourselves, this was a busy day…

A few weeks ago we had a Monday as a national holiday here – thinking about it, it was probably the same as the UK bank holiday – so went up to Shenyang for a long weekend. It’s a four-hour flight away, in northern China and kind of close to the North Korean border, so a regular weekend wouldn’t really have been doable.

I was mostly interested to go because there’s a new park up there with one of the new Chinese woodies, plus there were no pictures of any of the parks on RCDB, so I was quite curious really. I did parks on the first two days and a bit of cultural **** for a few hours on the Monday morning before heading to the airport.

My flight got in just before midnight on Friday, so I just went straight to the hotel and crashed out.

Nanhu Park

This place was just a 20 minute walk from my hotel, so I left early on Saturday morning and got there for about 9. It’s the usual city park around a lake – Nanhu means South Lake - and was pretty nice.

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There was the usual crappy stuff that I never bother with at these palaces.

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I totally f**ked up with this place though. I knew that rcdb had one coaster listed here, and I also knew that there was something else that wasn’t listed since I’d had a bit of a look on Google Maps and spotted a very obvious coaster. Despite knowing there was one crappy coaster listed, I hadn’t paid much attention to what type it was, so when I stumbled upon two pieces of crap, I thought that one of them was the listed coaster, and that I’d found a completely unknown one as well.

There was knock-off spinner, and by knock-off I mean it was actually a knock-off of a knock-off since it was a knock-off of an original knock-off Golden Horse. Got it? Right next to it, but kind of shoved behind, was a kiddy coaster. I assumed that one of these was the listed coaster and that I’d found another one.

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It’s only when I got home and checked again that I realised that the listed coaster was actually a jungle mouse and that I’d walked around it since it was hidden behind trees and s**t. The green shows where the coasters I discovered were, assuming that one of them was the listed coaster, while the red shows the coaster that was actually listed.

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I knew from the satellite view that there was a much bigger coaster in a slightly separate area just over a small bride. Not a bad discovery really since it’s usually just crappy kiddy s**t that people tend to stumble on.

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I’ve done a couple of these now, a medium 3 ring coaster from Hebei Zhongye, and they’re f**king vile. You get a decent first drop since you get the pre-drop helix to give you some speed, but the vertical loop seriously snaps your neck back, and the following corkscrew is appalling. I got off grateful in the knowledge that I wouldn’t have to ride one again in the foreseeable future.

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So yeah, I knew I was going to find one unknown coaster here, thought that I’d actually found 2, but in fact had found three and completely missed the original one already listed. I’m absolutely devastated that I couldn’t add another jungle mouse to my count. Next I was in a taxi and to another park about 15 minutes away, getting there a little after 10 I guess.

Wanquan Park

RCDB had this place as previously having a wacky worm which has since been removed, but after looking at the satellite view, I noticed that there was definitely something else there now. Again, this was a pleasant enough city park with an amusement park area, but this one was actually quite substantial and seemed very new.

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I’d spotted one coaster on Goggle maps, but it turned out there were two, including a jungle mouse. Yay!

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The second coaster, and the one that I’d spotted on the map was this:

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F**K!
F**k, f**kety, f**k, f**k f**k!

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Yep, it was the EXACT same piece of s**t, even down to the paint job, that I’d just ridden, and hated, less than half an hour previously in a park that was just 15 minutes away. They both must’ve been installed at pretty much the same time and it MAKES NO SENSE!

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Despite this one being made by Disney, it was still a vile piece of crap, but I at least managed to brace myself better for the loop this time to avoid what no doubt would have been the detachment of my upper three vertebrae otherwise.

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As awful as this was, and worried that I might never walk again as the train returned to the station, I was still feeling quite smug that I’d discovered another two unknown coasters. Not a bad day’s work considering it was only around 11am by this point.

From there it was back into a taxi for another 10 minutes or so and onto the next place.

Sinbad Happy Castle

This place was on the top floor of a shopping mall. There aren’t actually all that many shopping mall parks in China compared to other places in Asia.

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The park itself was actually pretty big with a few decent-sized rides in it.

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There were no surprises here regarding the coasters. The first one was a crappy Beijing Jihua “Children Coaster”.

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At first, I thought the second listed coaster might have gone as I couldn’t find it anywhere. I wasn’t really sure what I was looking for as I just remembered there were supposed to be two creds here, but without making a note of what they actually were. Anyway, I eventually found it hidden away by itself in a far corner and behind a bunch of “theming”. It was just a Beijing Jihua spinner, which is a knockoff of the Reverchon/Zamperla model. It’s fairly big to be fair, especially for a mall coaster, so I’m surprised I missed it for so long.

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+2 and back into a taxi for half an hour then to get to an actual proper park.

Fantawild Adventure

This place was my fourth Fantawild Park and, up until this point, my second favourite after the one in Xiamen. There are clearly plans for this place to be expanded with, at least, a second gate. There’s even a hotel here which the other parks I’ve been to don’t have.

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The whole entrance area is a bit weird at the moment. There’s a whole kind of “Citywalk” area that is currently all just empty buildings and still clearly unfinished.

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From here there are two paths, one which leads to a dead end at a huge patch of empty land, obviously for a second park. I’m assuming that the whole central plaza area will be opened up with this second park when it eventually happens; there’s nothing officially announced yet, though someone from Fantawild’s booth at IAAPA told me that a few parks in northern China were on the cards, this very clearly being one of them. Another path leads to the existing park, Fantawild Adventure.

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Going through this gate, you then reach what must easily be the absolute gayest “Main Street” of any park anywhere.

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Turn your sound up to experience the gay in all its glory (apologies for the crappy quality):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El8w1C6RN1g[/youtube]

The entrance area was dead, but the park was pretty busy once I got beyond that.

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The castle was pretty fab to be fair. There was something inside it which I missed due to it being on a schedule, but it sounded like an “Animation Academy” ripoff from the signs out front, so nothing I would be interested in anyway.

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The space themed area had two rides commonly found at Fantawild.

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Sky Sailor is a “Soarin’” type ride. It’s the same film in all of these, but the ride quality can vary. For example, the last one I’d done in Shantou was dreadful. The screen quality was poor and the ride mechanism felt a bit worn out. This one was much better in every respect really.

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The second ride is a multi-car simulator ride. Think Back to the Future/The Simpsons, but with a space theme. These are alright for a knockoff really.

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Conch Bay is another cut and paste across a lot of parks. It’s a multi-screen 4D theatre with animatronics and other whole-theatre effects, and is actually excellent.

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They had one of these water rides at the Xiamen park, but with a different theme. They’re pretty good, but the floating sections are ridiculously slow.

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Even the drinks here are knockoff:

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The first coaster here was just a Golden Horse knockoff of a Vekoma mine train. These can be very hit or miss, with this one being decidedly miss.

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I skipped their special effects show this time around since I’ve done tow of them previously and they’re absolute s**te.

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Some flat rides:

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This is kind of a weird 3D simulator attraction where you start off in one room and then the whole thing moves backwards into another room with multiple 3D screens and separates into different platforms. It’s a bit crap really and a very overly-complicated way of going about things.

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I’d seen Ghost Love Story at the Xiamen park previously. It uses the same technology as Mystery Lodge at Knotts – some of the other parks in the chain have a similar show in their Western areas – but is far more developed, using a Chinese story with multiple actors and some amazing effects. It really is very impressive.

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The kiddy cred was closed at first, but when it opened later I couldn’t get on it. It’s the first one of these that I’ve actually been refused on.

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This was also down the couple of times I walked past it, but seems to be a shooter which knocks off the Midway Mania/Mouse Au Chocolat ride system. It was the first one of these that I’d seen at Fantawild, so it was a bit disappointing not to get to try it out.

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The major coaster here, Flare Meteor would be my first of this type despite it being a common Fantawild model.

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It’s a Golden Horse knockoff of the Vekoma “Kumali” model, and it’s completely vile. I’ve done a bunch of Chinese knockoff suspended coasters from Beijing Shibaolai – who at least have the decency to create their own layout – and those are nothing compared to this piece of garbage.

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I finished off with a couple of rides on Dino Rampage, a 4D dark ride which, again, is quite a common staple across the parks.

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Again though, the one in Shantou had been crap, with out-of-sync vehicles and poor screen quality. This one was clearly newer and with seemingly higher quality. I’m pretty sure the physical sets were generally more impressive as well, and the ride seemed longer, though I’m not sure that’s the case since I can’t see them actually changing it up really. It’s no Spiderman, but it’s a decent ride all the same.

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The park was winding down to close by this point, so I got a taxi back into the city, stopping off away from my hotel and then walking through the city for an hour or so to get back.

Shenyang has China’s (the world’s?) largest Chairman Mao statue, which was amazingly cheap looking, being made of epoxy resin by some art students at a local university.

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I also walked past this tower, but didn’t bother going inside.

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My hotel was basically opposite this shopping mall.

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I was pretty knackered by the time I got back, having been out for about 12 hours and getting 4 parks done, so despite planning to try heading out for a few drinks, I just had a lazy evening in the hotel eating crap and watching s**t on my laptop.

Next up: more crap and Hot Go Park
 
Re: Shenyang PTR Day 1: Bunch of Crap and Fantawild

I **** love your reports from all ends of Asia.
 
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Haha I love that you had to ride two of those damn loopscrew things! Trying to imagine your face on finding it.

And yeah, that main street is ridiculous!

Interesting to see the Fantawild process over what is really a short space of time.
 
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^Yeah, it's quite ridiculous how Fantawild is progressing. My next report will feature their first "Oriental Heritage" park - one of three so far, and the first one to open - and they've taken the whole thing up a notch again.

I found out recently that they make all of their own dark rides and 3D/4D stuff, and it's actually really decent quality. They've sold a bunch of stuff outside of their own parks already and are offering their products, as well as "whole park management" outside of their own brand.

My worry is that they're opening bigger and better parks all the time, but ignoring the older ones. None of them are particularly old, but the "older" parks feel pretty shoddy these days.
 
Re: Shenyang PTR Day 1: Bunch of Crap and Fantawild

Death at the rainbow road. This Fantawild park needs to tone down their offensive usage of primary colours. Bright yellow does not go with temple ruins.
 
Re: Shenyang PTR Day 1: Bunch of Crap and Fantawild

I genuinely do a little happy dance when I see you've started another trip report!
 
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Do you think the older parks look poor because they have not been maintained? Or is it just that the newer parks are, by default, better. Surely even Fantawild's 'old' parks can't be that old to have got that run down?
 
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^^ Thanks!

^ They're not that old at all, you're right, but it genuinely seems that they just don't give a s**t. I can't think of a single example of one of their parks that they've actually added a new attraction to after they've opened it. They open a full park and then just ignore it.

They are, absolutely, improving in terms of their ride tech and general park quality, but none of that is filtering down to their older (realistically just a few years old) parks.

Customer service is none existent in China, and Fantawild follow that lack of care to the letter. They have a great product, but run it like **** because nobody knows any different.
 
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I'm not surprised. China (in so many industries) is forging ahead in leaps and bounds but they miss things sonetimes in the strive to be 'as good as' other countries.

It's really interesting because Chinese parks are like nothing we've really seen before. Seemingly unlimited target population, space and cost must make it tempting to open a park, make a quick return over the first few years and then go on to the next. But then Happy Valley have done a decent job (in some of thier parks at least). I've only done Shenzhen and Beijing and the later had great theming but then I guess it gets International guests not just locals.

Maybe Disney coming to Shanghai will be an opportunity to show people just what can be done, but I'm guessing it'll be a lot of tourists again?

I wonder if Disney or Universal or Merlin will one day think about moving into China proper...?
 
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^Well, with Disney opening in Shanghai next year, it doesn’t really get much more “China proper” than that. Then there’s Universal Beijing in the pipeline, Six Flags and Lotte looking to get in on the action, and Merlin have got Madame Tussauds in Hong Kong, Shanghai, Beijing and Wuhan.

Day 2
The next day followed a similar pattern to the first in that it involved some whoring of crap before heading to a more major park.

Shenyang Forest Wild Zoological Garden

This place took about 45 minutes to get to by taxi from my hotel and there was a bit of confusion at first since RCDB had a park listed as Snow World, but that was actually a plot of empty land. I’m assuming that they use it in winter for various activities then since Shenyang is really far north and must get some pretty heavy snow. Shenyang Forest is a huge scenic area with a bunch of stuff (campsites etc.) scattered around a central lake.

Looking at Google maps, I worked out that the place with the actual creds (2 supposedly) must be the nearby zoo. At £8 to get in, this was pretty pricey for a Chinese zoo. It was huge though admittedly, but I didn’t want to spend a great deal of time here.

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The stuffed animals just inside the entrance were fab.

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Some real animals.

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For a Chinese zoo, this place was ok really, with decent-sized enclosures from what I saw. I didn’t see a lot of it though since it was massive, I didn’t have a lot of time, and looking at the map they didn’t seem to have anything I haven’t seen a thousand times before.

There were supposed to be a big apple and a jungle mouse here, but only the big apple was left. I guess the jungle mouse could have been somewhere else, but there was nothing on any maps anywhere, and an area that was about the right size to have one had a new-looking car ride thing.

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So yeah, a £10 taxi ride, £8 entrance fee and another £1 for the coaster = about £20 for a f**king big apple. Since there’s an entrance fee for cars to get into the whole area, there were no taxis around, so I ended up in a sh**ty little tuk-tuk thing to the next place.

Shenyang Botanical Garden

I’d driven past this on the way up to the first place, so I knew that was only about 10 minutes away, making the tuk-tuk more bearable.

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This place was absolutely huge, but I only got to see a small fraction of it as I walked through to get to the amusement park area. I walked past/through a bunch of smaller gardens, each one themed to a different Chinese city, but there was also an enormous “International” area that I didn’t go near.

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The amusement park was actually a lot bigger than I was expecting. RCDB had four coasters listed, but there were actually five, so that made up for the removed one at the last place.

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They had two Tagada rides here, as well as two pirate ships.

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Only one of them was themed to this porno though. I’ve seen quite a lot of porn-themed pirate ships in China now.

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The first coaster up was a piece of kiddy crap.

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Then there was a piece of spinny crap.

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Followed by a piece of (knock-off?) Pinfari crap.

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Next up was some jungle crap.

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And rounding off with some Suspended Looping Crap.

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Can’t complain about a +5 really even if there was nothing decent. The next, and final, park was one of the newer ones in China.

Hot Go Park – Happy Jungle World

Hot Go Park actually consists of three sections, only one of which was open at the time I was there. Happy Jungle World is the coasters/rides park, Bali Water World is a water park, and Snow World will only be open in winter by the looks of it. They’re also building an enormous hotel, which also has a crapload of empty land right behind it at the moment.

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There are two entrances to the park, but the south exit hasn’t been opened up yet; they’re still laying the car park, so just the east entrance is being used at the moment.

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This place was all a bit weird really. It’s absolutely f**king massive, with most of the rides really spread out and loads of open space. Some of this will no doubt start to fill up though when they start adding their new coasters – a couple of Vekomas and a B&M Wingrider – in the near future.

Naked Storm Force 10 knockoff which was still under contstuction. I’m assuming it’s a knockoff anyway as there are a few of these scattered around China:

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I didn’t do the star flyer, but there was also a huge bobcart in the same area. Looking at Wiegand’s website, it’s actually the world’s longest now at 890m, just beating out the one at Knight Valley.

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I didn’t do the disko either. It seemed closed, but I saw it operating later. The park was absolutely dead, so it really did appear that a lot of the rides were closed when they weren’t. This is the first one of the longer diskos I’ve seen in China, which makes me think it’s original.

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I think this was original too. Apart from the OTSRs, it didn’t look, sound or feel any different from a proper one.

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The fact that they were also just finishing off a pair of what looked to be original S&S towers supports the idea that the screaming swing was real too.

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The main reason for heading to this park - well, for heading to Shenyang really - was this:

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Time Travel is a new Gravity Group/Martin & Vleminckx woodie that just opened last year. I was worried that it might not be open since I hadn’t seen it running, but as I got closer, they sent a train around. Because of the lack of people, it was a walk-on – like everything here – and they were letting people just stay on the train or change seats without having to leave the exit and go back around.

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The level of care was astounding. Light Speed Coaster was actually at the complete opposite end of the park, but who cares?!

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I guess you could still see it from here though.

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The coaster then. It should have been excellent; it rattled like s**t the entire way round. It had a great first drop, some decent airtime and an interesting layout, but it just wasn’t a very pleasant ride. They were only running one of the two trains, so I don’t know if the other one would have been any better. It was a real shame though.

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POV and off-ride from Gravity Group during testing:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Q9ht4tdMU[/youtube]

After a few rides I took the massive trek over to the other side of the park where the other coasters were.

Light Speed Coaster was a Beijing Shiboalai SLC. Despite being new, and one of their updated models, it was pretty awful, though nowhere near as bad as the Golden Horse monstrosity from the previous day.

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No idea:

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This wasn’t listed on RCDB, so was a nice little surprise. These “Mine Train” coasters are usually at least themed though; it’s the same model as the Mine Trains at Sun Park and Beijing Shijingshan for anyone that’s been.

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There was short alpine coaster which was pretty fun really. It’s the first one of these that I’ve actually done since the majority of them don’t really seem to be placed in amusement parks.

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There was also this Wie Hex coaster from Wiegand, the same company who built the bobcart and alpine coaster. There are only a few of these around at the moment, but this is by far the most substantial.

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Thank Christ the park was dead because the throughput on these things is pretty horrendous. At least they were running it decently though. I can imagine other Chinese parks sending one car around at a time, but here they were at least dispatching them properly.

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I headed back over for a last couple of rides on Time Travel, figuring that I’d use the south exit which was right next to it. That’s when I found out it wasn’t being used yet, so had to trek all the way back to other exit.

This was just a weird place really, especially given how dead it was at the weekend and with gorgeous weather. I can only assume that people are waiting for it to properly open – there was a bunch of stuff that wasn’t ready – or for the water park to be ready too as they offer a combination ticket for both. Despite being a quite a nice park, it all just felt very soulless.

Day 3

I only really had the morning free as I had an afternoon flight back home – via Shanghai as there was nothing direct to Hong Kong heading back – so decided to do some cultural s**t.

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I headed to the Imperial Palace first, which was basically a mini “Forbidden City” built in the 1600s.

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Unfortunately, I only got to see it from the car park since, despite signs and website indicating it should’ve been open from 8am, it was opening on that day at 1pm according to some English speaking tour guide who’d arrived with a coachload of Americans, who clearly expected it to be open, too.

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It was around 11 am by this point, I didn’t want to hang around for two hours, and even if it did open at 1, I only would have had an hour there before I needed to think about heading to the airport. Instead, I got back in a taxi and went to Beiling Park, which had some old tomb/mausoleum shoved at the back of it.

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The modern additions to the architecture don’t quite fit though:

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I’m glad I made the effort because the whole tomb area was lovely, and actually very quiet. It was a Monday though, and not a holiday in China as it was in Hong Kong, so I think I got lucky.

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The actual tomb is this mound of crud with a tree shoved in the top.

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All in all it was a good weekend. I got to go to a bunch of parks I knew very little about thanks to there being no pictures on RCDB - apart from one of the SLC at the botanical garden - I found seven non-listed coasters even I did end up stupidly missing an actual listed one in the process, and got to go to a couple of decent parks.

I liked Shenyang as well, so would definitely go back when other stuff gets added in. As I mentioned before, Hot Go Park has a couple of Vekomas and a B&M Wingrider, at the very least, heading there soon. Fantawild are clearly planning a second gate, though there’s room for even more than that, and Lotte World are just finishing up plans and should get going with construction soon, assuming that everything is going to plan.
 
That's like saying London isn't proper England because it feeds of tourists, if anything Shanghai feeds of business, then tourism.
 
Mysterious Sue said:
I wouldn't call Shanghai or Beijing proper China though.

The biggest city there, plus the capital, aren't proper China? Sorry, Sue, but that's one of the daftest things I've seen on here for a while.

You've BEEN to parks in Beijing - not sure about Shanghai. How many non-Chinese did you see there? The number of tourists compared to locals is tiny. Yes, there are a lot of Chinese visitors to those cities, but you're wildly overestimating the international draw of those places.

Of course Beijing and Shanghai get more international tourists than other cities, but that doesn't make them less Chinese. Plus, those visitors aren't generally taking time out from the palaces and Great Wall to go to Happy Valley. People generally don't travel to a city like Beijing and end up at theme parks there. That's like saying Thorpe exists because of international visitors to London. It doesn't. Clearly.

Disney and Universal will attract more visitors to try them out, but that's the whole point of building them in Shanghai and Beijing; there's a huge local market, but the brand itself will attract people who are visiting and find themselves with an extra day or two to kill. The main target audience won't be international tourism. People aren't going to travel from the US or Europe when they find out that Shanghai has a Disneyland.
 
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