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Liseberg | Valkyria | B&M Dive Coaster

Discussion in 'Roller Coaster Construction' started by roomraider, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. Pear

    Pear Active Member

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    During the tour it was also mentioned that after Helix guests really didn't care for Kanonen that much as they found Helix to be a much better launch coaster than Kanonen was. The park also realized that it was a bit weird to have 2 very similar style coasters and decided to remove it.

    The reason Valkyria is a dive coaster is because the park wanted a ride that focused on a big first drop as the others don't really do that (Balder kinda accomplishes that but it is quite small height wise).
     
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    Besides, I'm sure Valkyria will be ace if SheiKra is anything to go by! Some of the transitions look to pack some nice forces!

    Out of interest, was Kanonen any better than the likes of Rita at Alton Towers, for those who rode? I'm sure it'll be a wonderful fit for whichever park eventually assembles it.
     
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    Sebastian Martinsson New Member

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    Kanonen had a pretty neat launch, actually better than any of the two forceless ones found on Helix.

    But the rest of the coaster was really dull and short in my opinion.
     
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    Lofty Social Media Team Staff Member Social Media Team

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    Kanonen was :emoji_poop:e. Even the launch was absolutely piss poor.
     
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    Ah right, thanks guys! I thought Kanonen looked OK, but if Rita is anything to go by, I can't imagine that it was the smoothest of coasters.
     
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    I don't get why loads of people dislike Rita, like, there's nothing wrong with it...
     
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    I personally think that Rita is rough, but it's just a matter of opinion, I suppose.
     
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    Lack of enjoyable forces, the uninspiring layout, the roughness and the cringe-worthy pre-launch audio to name a few things wrong with it. Even Desert Race rides far better than Rita.
     
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    I personally wouldn't say Rita's bad, as far as I've experienced, it's never been that rough. But as a ride, I'd still say it's pretty mediocre at best, especially in comparison to the other coasters at Alton. It doesn't do an awful lot, but it does fill a gap in the lineup at least.

    As for Liseberg removing Kanonen, even though it wasn't at the end of its operating life, for a park that's not got an awful lot of space to play with, removing it in favour of building something new (and most importantly, something that will fill a gap in the lineup), will increase the variety of experiences on offer at the park, so is probably good decision really.
     
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    Actually yeah the first two points I agree with. I don't see where people come from with the roughness though and its launch is very fun.
     
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    As for Rita's roughness, it might be a height thing? I'm 6'1 and it bruises my shoulders pretty bad.
     
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    I'm 6'2 and have never been bruised by Rita, not a special coaster but still decent.
     
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    I'm 5'7 (a short ass) and I think Rita is decent.
     
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    I last rode Rita when I was about 5'/5'1 and found it quite rough, but it might have changed now I'm 5'8. Stealth didn't feel any different after 8 inches of growth, though.

    Shouldn't we we probably get this into a separate thread?
     
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    I think we've got enough data to tell that height doesn't really affect how rough Rita is perceived :emoji_wink:

    At least Valkyria won't be rough at all!
     
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    Yes, that is almost a certainty!
     
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    EDIT:- Photos of station/queue entrance/ride exit by Coaster Fans & News:-
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    We have been to the opening yesterday. The line was not long because we we're in quick to get in line. The opening was not spectacular, they popped some glitter bombs. Everyone was relieved that the storm only shut download Atmosfear for a while. The following nicht contain minor spoilers.

    People had to wait until the opening until being let into the queue. image:104918.jpg
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    The queque unfortunately is pretty boring. Few theming, a shop, a monitor with safety instructions. image:104924.jpg image:104925.jpg image:104923.jpg

    The line splits into a queque for the first row later.Which happens behind a corner, so people don't see this and line up anywhere. image:104928.jpg

    The rest will follow later this day.
     

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