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Discussion in 'News & Rumours' started by MestnyiGeroi, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. Antinos

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    Wow. I'm kind of struggling to brainstorm reasons for this change. It's certainly smaller and lighter...not as much overhang. Maybe there was a weight issue with the original? Or maybe the fascia actually fell off and caused some damage? With IAAPA coming up, that would be an interesting question to ask Pete...if he is allowed to answer, that is.

    Was the fascia the singular root cause? I highly doubt it. But something obviously drove the change. As we discussed, there's way more going on behind the scenes that we may never even get a slight hint about.
     
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  2. Matt N

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    Ah right, thanks @b&mfanboy123!

    Also, interesting to see that the zero car has been changed!
     
  3. CrashCoaster

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    But now the zero car looks :emoji_poop:. Why would they need to change it? I doubt it would really affect the ride?
     
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    Might it potentially cause less drag over the hills due to a lower mass? Or maybe the train was moving too quickly through the apparent rough patches in the track?
     
  5. Hixee

    Hixee Flojector Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    It's an interesting question, as I don't think they've changed the underlying chassis, which suggests it wasn't really a train dynamics issue. I wonder if the original zero car was just heavy, and they were looking for every spare kilogram (or pound, stupid Americans ;) ) to lighten the train up.

    Once they'd sorted the launch (back in 2016/2017), they were still having issues with the trains overshooting brakes and things. A lighter train would certainly help with this!

    I'd love to know. It would have been a great engineering problem to solve!
     
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  6. Hyde

    Hyde I Lied About My Age! Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    i really really hope that new nose is a temporary fix whilst they develop a new, more suitable one or find out whatever issues there were with the previous one. it looks hideous.
     
  8. Hyde

    Hyde I Lied About My Age! Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    I'm of two minds on it, primarily if this is what it takes to keep the coaster regularly operational - fine. At least there is some aesthetic preserved, versus totally deleting theme...

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    I am interested though as how the change in zero car helps improve physics. Was it the train was too long? Too front heavy?
     
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    At least TTD still has the front car which does resemble a dragster so I don't consider it totally deleted.

    From what I've heard the front car caused vibrations because of the nose not being supported enough. They then added a metal bar underneath it to support it but it ended up making the train too heavy.
     
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    I mean, at least it’s open now.
     
  11. b&mfanboy123

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    From what I have heard LR feels much slower and the airtime is not as strong or out of control, I haven't confirmed that yet but just to say.
     
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    Tbf everyone said that last time when it first reopened and then changed their tune like a week later so we’ll see!
     
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    From the videos I've seen thus far, it appears no different than it did before it closed.
     
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    tomahawk Moderator Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    I'll tell you in 5 weeks.

    Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
     
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    Yeah it legit looks no different in terms of speed up that hill. Short of the zero car.. which.. really who cares.. I'm just glad it's open.
     
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    Yeah, put me in the small camp that prefers the new zero car. It's much smaller and offers much better sightlines. It's still not as good as just a bare zero car with a completely unobstructed view, but this is a healthy compromise.
     
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    This. I prefer the new zero car as well.
     
  18. Hyde

    Hyde I Lied About My Age! Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    I just want to get on the :emoji_zipper_mouth:ing thing.
     
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    Don't we all?
     
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    Soooo see you in five weeks? Great! Glad you can join us for once ;)
     
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