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Is Rougarou a New Roller Coaster Credit?

Is Rougarou a New Roller Coaster Credit?

  • Yes. It is a separate credit from Mantis.

    Votes: 8 25.8%

  • Nope. Same track as Mantis, same credit.

    Votes: 21 67.7%

  • I believe in a system that transcends roller coaster counting and concern for what qualifies as a "u

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • Total voters
    31
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The age old question of any roller coaster geek - what makes for a roller coaster credit?

For years, most can agree to a simple metric, that one set of roller coaster track counts as one credit.

Should the roller coaster be relocated? It still counts as the same credit.

What if there is more than one of this type of roller coaster in the world? (I'm looking at you Wacky Worms) Each set of roller coaster track counts as one credit.

And for the sake of simplicity, let's not get started on racing roller coasters counting as one or two credits.

Yet Rougarou puts us at a unique impasse. While the roller coaster is a conversion from Stand-Up train style to Floorless, the track remains the same. Compare this to Phantom's Revenge, the famous conversion of the notoriously painful Steel Phantom Arrow Looper. While the trains were changed to match the new hyper design, there were also track alterations involved to remove inversions. Phantom's Revenge is very easily a different experience, and can count as a stand alone credit outside of Steel Phantom. For Rougarou however, while the ride experience will be different, the track remains the same. This taps into Sheikra's recent conversion, when the traditional B&M Dive Machine trains were converted to a Floorless model.

Which all loops back to the question, what makes for a roller coaster credit on a partially converted roller coaster? Do we stick to the traditional theory of the same track means the same credit, or do we take train conversions also into account?
 
No, I don't think it's a new credit. The track has stayed exactly the same and that's how I personally base it on. Sometimes coasters run backwards which provides a different experience to when the ride runs forwards, but it doesn't make it a separate cred.
 
For me I was hoping they would remove or add a element to it so I could count it but if they didn't do anything to the track except paint it its still the same. Phantoms Revenge is clearly a new coaster because they removed all the inversions and did tons of work to change it around. I wouldn't count Rougarou unless they altered the track in some way whether it be by removing or adding a element. Even though its odd because on coaster count it makes it look like I have been on Rougarou already because I rode Mantis. I would love to call it a new credit but I have already been around the track before just not sitting down and I don't think whether you stand going around, lay down, or sit makes it a new coaster. Thats just my thought on it I know I am going to be riding a new coaster but technically I have already gone around the track.

EDIT- I just went on coaster count and they have changed Mantis back to Mantis and put Rougarou in on its own. They have it so you can count them both separately under the two names but they still count it as one coaster. Like if you rode a boomerang at one park and they relocated and you rode it again there.
 
No.

New trains do not equal new ride. Had they changed around 30% of the layout, I'd classify it new.
 
Fun fact: Operators used to allow riders to sit on Mantis, having the restraints set to the lowest setting. Only ever saw a couple folks do this until they disallowed the practice back around 2005 or 2006.

And I also will not be counting Rougarou as a new credit. I dedicate myself at the altar of one track equals one credit - train alterations notwithstanding.
 
Definitely not new. It's totally different for Phantom's Revenge because the layout changed substantially. I'm interested to see how much the experience changes, but I won't be counting it in my coaster count.
 
Considering what done people call creds they'd say sliding down a hill in a bathtub as a cred.

Not a new cred.
 
Going floorless didn't make SheiKra a new cred and neither will this.
 
Course it's not. It's exactly the same track. If you count a floors conversion you might as well count each individual seat on the coaster as an extra credit. No way.
 
If you rode the ride as Mantis with the standup trains, then Rougarou would NOT be a new credit. If you haven't ridden MantiRou at all, then it IS a new credit.


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I personally will not consider it a new one.


For me:
Relocation =/= new cred, each side of a racing coaster (if they are the same) =/= new cred.
This is a new thing for me, and it is an interesting question. Exact same ride of course but it is a new experience. This isn't even like a conversion from sit down to floorless where nothing feels different, BUT in the end: It's the same ride, so it's the same cred. Also I air on the side of conservatism because no one wants to be a cred whore
 
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