How Do You Keep Your Count?
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rollermonkey
Strata Poster
In coaster-count terminology, all my boxes are unchecked, I count racers as two, moebius as one and at present, it appears that I count in binary, since I'm at 1110 right now. 
BBH
Giga Poster
An Apple Worm or something like that is a credit, so is a water coaster ie. Divertical. This is where I draw the line, however, as Alpine coasters nor powered coasters, and neither Disk'O1~s% (however you spell it out) nor Half-Pipes count as credits. (But Impulses do because they're an actual track.)
You can't take a tracked flat ride from one company (Disk'O, Zamperla), add your own cheesy looking cars and then call it a coaster. (Half Pipe Mumbo Jumbo, INTAMIN)
You can't take a tracked flat ride from one company (Disk'O, Zamperla), add your own cheesy looking cars and then call it a coaster. (Half Pipe Mumbo Jumbo, INTAMIN)
Chris Coasters
Strata Poster
I count powered, water, and butterflies because they are all on rcdb. The only non rcdb "coaster" I do count is alpine. Its just personal opinion, the only one I don't consider is undefined. If you can't define it as a coaster and its not on rcdb its not a coaster. Other then alpine I just go by if its on rcdb or not.
Jason Voorhees
Hyper Poster
Kiddie Coasters: 1 credit
Racing/Mobius: 2 credits
Half Pipe's: 1 credit
Water Coasters: 1 credit
Reverse Freefall: 1 credit (however S:EFK is 2)
Alpine Coasters: Not a credit but I do not know why exactly
Disk'O's: Not a credit
Butterfly: Not a credit
Powered Coasters: 1 credit
Racing/Mobius: 2 credits
Half Pipe's: 1 credit
Water Coasters: 1 credit
Reverse Freefall: 1 credit (however S:EFK is 2)
Alpine Coasters: Not a credit but I do not know why exactly
Disk'O's: Not a credit
Butterfly: Not a credit
Powered Coasters: 1 credit
Chris Coasters
Strata Poster
CookieCoasters said:
I 100% agree with this. I didn't think anyone counted Disk O's ever. I've never seen anybody count them.
Casio
Mega Poster
I always thought most people didn't count dueling coasters as two?? Oh well, I often don't do both halves anyway. I count Halfpipes and Superman Escape from Krypton, but as everyone says I drawn the line at Disc-Os and alpines. I'd probably not count Butterflies either if I'd been on one.
rtotheizzo17
Hyper Poster
Definition of ROLLER COASTER
1
: an elevated railway (as in an amusement park) constructed with sharp curves and steep inclines on which cars roll
<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roller coaster>.
For me the keyword is railway. It needs to be on some sort of rail, or fixed track. I would argue that bob's of all type don't fit this definition. Alpine slides that are tracked, would fit this definition.
The second keyword to me is roll. If it does not roll on its own (IE gravity), then it is not a coaster. Coasters that are powered through the whole track do not meet this definition.
As for the issue of dueling, racing, mobius:
Mobius by definition = 1
a one-sided surface that is constructed from a rectangle by holding one end fixed, rotating the opposite end through 180 degrees, and joining it to the first end
<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Möbius strip>.
Pretty much everything else is 2 IMO. I have been given grief from my wife (a non enthusiast) that my count is inflated because I count clones (been on 4 Batmans), and racers as 2. I firmly believe that clones, even if they are next to each other like a racing coaster, are independent rides with their own identities. Not to mention almost all racers have some sort of twist in the layout to make it complete (like Colossus @ SFMM).
1
: an elevated railway (as in an amusement park) constructed with sharp curves and steep inclines on which cars roll
<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roller coaster>.
For me the keyword is railway. It needs to be on some sort of rail, or fixed track. I would argue that bob's of all type don't fit this definition. Alpine slides that are tracked, would fit this definition.
The second keyword to me is roll. If it does not roll on its own (IE gravity), then it is not a coaster. Coasters that are powered through the whole track do not meet this definition.
As for the issue of dueling, racing, mobius:
Mobius by definition = 1
a one-sided surface that is constructed from a rectangle by holding one end fixed, rotating the opposite end through 180 degrees, and joining it to the first end
<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Möbius strip>.
Pretty much everything else is 2 IMO. I have been given grief from my wife (a non enthusiast) that my count is inflated because I count clones (been on 4 Batmans), and racers as 2. I firmly believe that clones, even if they are next to each other like a racing coaster, are independent rides with their own identities. Not to mention almost all racers have some sort of twist in the layout to make it complete (like Colossus @ SFMM).
jolash
Mega Poster
From my experience, when you start to try to apply strict definitions to what a roller coaster is, it never ends up well. This is not something you can define; for every definition you can come up with, anyone can come up with an obvious coaster to counter that argument. Eventually, you end up questioning whether or not Millennium Force is a roller coaster.
It's all case by case.
It's all case by case.
rollermonkey
Strata Poster
Millenium Force is obviously not a coaster.
CookieCoasters
Giga Poster
rollermonkey said:Millenium Force is obviously not a coaster.
Damn i was going to put that
caffeine_demon
Strata Poster
If it looks like a coaster, and rides like a coaster I'll count it!
So - alpines are in!
So - alpines are in!
Darren B
Giga Poster
I go by Coaster-Count to determine what a coaster counts as, and I must admit I agree with their definitions.
Steeple chase at PBB is 3 credits, 3 different tracks, 3 minimal differences between each track (angle of turns etc.) so you are getting 3 different ride experiences, even if you don't notice in the slightest.
Möbius again I agree is 2, 1 experience is station to station on one train, and the second experience is station to station on the second train, one train is always faster than the other thus altering the experience and the track layout also has a minimal difference, again changing the experience at a minimal amount.
Clones are 100% countable, your talking about a different piece of steel/wood, different trains, different location etc. whoever doesn't count clones are not giving themselves enough credit.
Relocations I also count, upon re-construction who is to say that it will ride like it did at its previous location? Also it's probably renamed and re branded, the location obviously is different, it's pretty much a new coaster.
Of course there are so many arguments out there that completely destroy mine but as I use Counter-Count its so much easier for me to tick the boxes of what I've ridden rather than um and ah as to whether I should or not. So yeah, if its on Coaster-Count its getting counted!
Steeple chase at PBB is 3 credits, 3 different tracks, 3 minimal differences between each track (angle of turns etc.) so you are getting 3 different ride experiences, even if you don't notice in the slightest.
Möbius again I agree is 2, 1 experience is station to station on one train, and the second experience is station to station on the second train, one train is always faster than the other thus altering the experience and the track layout also has a minimal difference, again changing the experience at a minimal amount.
Clones are 100% countable, your talking about a different piece of steel/wood, different trains, different location etc. whoever doesn't count clones are not giving themselves enough credit.
Relocations I also count, upon re-construction who is to say that it will ride like it did at its previous location? Also it's probably renamed and re branded, the location obviously is different, it's pretty much a new coaster.
Of course there are so many arguments out there that completely destroy mine but as I use Counter-Count its so much easier for me to tick the boxes of what I've ridden rather than um and ah as to whether I should or not. So yeah, if its on Coaster-Count its getting counted!
