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How did Intamin get the Millennium Force contract?

BigBad

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I didn't put this in Q&A because it's almost a rhetorical question, although if some of the senior members (or anyone) have insight, I'd definitely like to hear it.

When Millennium Force opened, Intamin had built one hyper, and it had only opened the previous year and for Six Flags, meaning that Cedar Fair might not even have known about it when they started planning Millennium Force with Intamin.

Morgan had three hypers by 2000 (1996, 1997, 1998), all for Cedar Fair parks, and they built their own giga that year. Arrow had built three true hypers (Magnum, Big One, Desperado) and the Steel Phantom. B&M did Apollo's Chariot and Raging Bull in 1999.

Intamin did one of the Superman hyper clones in 1999, and it strikes me as quite a bit bigger of a project than anything they had done at that point.

It was obviously a good call by Cedar Fair, and Intamin has become a premier coaster company (perhaps the best), but given that it was the world's tallest continuous-circuit coaster and Cedar Fair knew they would have to spend a lot of money on the ride, I'm really surprised the contract didn't go to Morgan or B&M (maybe Arrow).
 
There's no way B&M would have touched that at that time.

I imagine Morgan and Intamin (and perhaps Arrow) pitched for it and Intamin's was the best bang for their buck.

It's not hard to imagine the three pitches and why Intamin's would be better.
 
Glad arrow didn't get near it. Magnum is literally the worst steel coaster I've been on...


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^ You need to ride more. Seriously. It's not even the worst in the park.
 
I rode everything. Maybe that's harsh on it. Blue Streak was worse. Arrow is only beaten by PTC coasters for worst imo.


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trav1089 said:
I rode everything. Maybe that's harsh on it. Blue Streak was worse. Arrow is only beaten by PTC coasters for worst imo.


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So many people say Magnum is great.

I have ridden Pepsi Max Big One. Magnum looks so much better than the Big One.

As for why Intamin got the contract, they clearly had the most cutting-edge design with their cable lift, more modern trains and overbanked turns, all of which Morgan and Arrow didn't have. B&M like to play it safe, they wouldn't have taken it on
 
It probably was great a long time ago. Personally I think all/most arrow coasters suck and haven't aged very well.


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@lachlan
Millennium Force is about my second- or third-favorite coaster, so I'm not complaining about the contract going to Intamin. I'm just surprised that it didn't go to a company that had more experience with huge coasters like Arrow had with inventing the hyper and building a few others, or Morgan building three of the great hypercoasters in the world by 1998 when Mamba, Steel Force, and Wild Thing were cutting edge. Intamin did their big work after and probably because of Millennium Force.

@trav1089
They probably got the contract in 1998 or 1999. Arrow coasters certainly have their flaws, but they were a major player at that time.
 
Fair call. I'm not saying they weren't a viable option at the time, just saying I'm glad they stayed away.


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Intamin was still the industry leader at the time when it came to innovation, and they were probably cheapest.

Sorry to re-bump this already-bumped thread, but it may very well be that MagnesiumPC hit the nail on the head here. It is a trick sometimes used in the construction industry, pricing oneself to the point of economic losses to win an important contract. Not for the money and not for the love of the sport, but to build a portfolio. It just dawned on me that I have heard of an example of this before. A few days ago, actually, talking to a friend in the construction industry.

So, there's this great engineering/consulting company in Oslo. Not among the biggest in the industry, but they have expanded a lot in recent years and apparently want to size up to be able to compete for the most high-profile contracts. They have a lot of experienced people, who they hire out on a project-by-project basis to other consulting companies, but very few in-house projects. It's a decent model, spreading one's work force to build reputation and experience, but without the company having to compete for projects. They bring experts to the projects and take care of the HR side of things, the other company gets to rent people temporarily without having to find work for them after the project is over.

But now, the company's strategy is changing. They employ people with very good project records and impressive CVs, but very little of this goes back to the company itself. "We provided a few guys who did crucial work on the Munch museum for another company" sounds a lot less impressive than "We did crucial work on the Munch museum." So they decide to gather their people for an in-house project, rather than spreading them across other projects to work for other companies. This time, they want their own name on the great banner outside the construction site. With references like that, they would be more sought-after for future projects, and a more prestigious employer for great minds in the industry.

Then a great new project comes up. The Viking Ship museum, one of the crown jewels of Oslo's tourist destinations, is up for a major overhaul (about time, the last big one was in 1934 to my knowledge). All over the industry, people know that Multiconsult did the Munch Museum, Norconsult did the Holmenkollen Ski Jump (both companies feature the landmarks extensively on their promotional material and in recruitment videos), now our ambitious consulting company wants a project like that on their recruitment posters as well. But thing is, all the other consulting companies have also put in bids for the project.

What does our little company do then? Declare that they want the museum contract no matter what. They put their bid ridiculously low, meaning they won't earn a penny on the contract in the short run. Probably losing a million pounds or so, when all is said and done. All the other companies are in it for the prestige, yes, but they also want to make money off of it. So nobody can match our heroes when it comes to price, and the builder (Oslo Municipality, law-bound to go for the lowest serious bid) ends up picking them.


Back to Millennium Force, I suspect that Intamin did it this way. Cedar Point put out an invitation for bids to build their next big coaster, and all the regulars put in their bids. Morgan wanted this-and-that, Arrow wanted so-and-such, B&M might have abstained, and Intamin decided that 80 % or so of a reasonable price was high enough. With what was at the time intended to be the world's tallest and fastest coaster, Intamin secured a name for themselves in the industry (beyond what they had already), good relations with Cedar Fair, and established a foothold in the Mega Coaster segment. "We built Millennium Force, we're the right people for your project" is a great byline. Apparently it worked, since Intamin Hypers really got a boost after Millennium Force, and Cedar Point came back to Intamin when it was time to take the height record home again.


This is unfounded speculation, though, and it could very well be that there was a different reason entirely. After all, Morgan did go for an even bigger project in Steel Dragon 2000, and Arrow had X coming up around that time. It could simply be that the other candidates were busy. But an un-and-coming company taking a loss project to build prestige certainly isn't unheard of either. I bet there are plenty of examples from other industries as well.
 
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