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Has Pipeline: The Surf Coaster solved the standup coaster's problems?

Matt N

CF Legend
Hi guys. For many years, the standup coaster has, rightly or wrongly, been the poor relation of roller coaster seating positions. After being introduced by Togo in the 1980s, the standup coaster was also manufactured by Intamin and B&M during the 1980s and 1990s. However, unlike other innovations from the 1980s and 1990s, it was largely left in the 1990s, with the newest standup coaster before 2023 being manufactured in 1999. The ride type was largely on the decline for many years; throughout the 2010s, many standup coasters were either removed or converted into sit-down coasters. This process has continued into the 2020s; 2023 saw the demise of yet another standup coaster, with Drayton Manor's Shockwave being converted into a sit-down coaster for 2024. Only 9 remain in operation worldwide, and they are now vanishingly rare outside of the USA and Japan, with only 1 remaining outside of these countries.

In general, the standup coaster is widely perceived to have aged poorly as a concept, with rider discomfort and poor throughputs resulting from a complicated loading procedure being chief among the standup coaster's commonly perceived flaws.

However, B&M surprised everyone by spearheading a grand revival of the standup coaster in the form of the Surf Coaster. The first installation of this model opened in 2023 in the form of Pipeline: The Surf Coaster at SeaWorld Orlando, and the theme park community was highly interested in this attraction. Many people were keen to know; would Pipeline finally solve the afflictions of the much-maligned standup coaster? Would Pipeline prove the potential of standing up on a roller coaster and make the standup coaster loved in a way that the rides of the 1980s and 1990s never did?

So now that we're nearing the end of 2023 and Pipeline has been open for a good few months now, I'd be interested to know; do you feel that Pipeline has solved the standup coaster's problems? Do you feel that Pipeline has finally broken the curse that has blighted standup coasters for decades? Do you feel that Pipeline has finally made people love the standup coaster and made it an attractive option for parks?

Personally, having ridden Pipeline in June... I'm not convinced. While I concede that the jumping seats are a cool idea, and that a layout with a stronger focus on airtime is a cool new take on the standup coaster in theory, Pipeline was not a coaster I massively rated and I am profoundly unconvinced that it's necessarily solved any of the standup coaster's inherent flaws. In my view, it is still rather uncomfortable, and I'm not sure that the freedom of movement in the seats necessarily helped in this regard. I found that when the seats "jumped", it shoved the bike seat type thing (for lack of a better term) right into my crotch, and the sudden landing back onto the floor afterwards was quite uncomfortable on my feet and legs. I also did not feel that the throughput issue was solved either; when I was at SeaWorld, dispatch intervals were averaging a solid 3-4 minutes, and the boarding procedure didn't seem an awful lot less complicated. I guess this could theoretically be solved by employing a dual station, similar to what B&M employs on many of its flying coasters, but the premiere outing of the model does not have this and the throughput does seem to suffer as a result.

So in my view, Pipeline has not necessarily solved the standup coaster's problems. While it does offer an interesting new take on the concept, I still believe that it is largely brought down by discomfort in the same vein as its predecessors are/were. In my view, many of the flaws of older standup coasters are pretty inherent in the ride style and are difficult to overcome, and for me at least, Pipeline doesn't really overcome many of the key flaws.

But I'd be keen to know; do you feel that Pipeline has finally solved the problems of the standup coaster? Do you feel that it has made the standup coaster a better option for modern-day parks?
 
I honestly thought Surf Coasters were just a gimmick until I rode Pipeline. It's nowhere near as uncomfortable as any standup coaster I've ridden (Togo, Intamin or B&M) and it's actually a very fun ride (can't claim to have had much fun on any standup tbh). I rode it during the IAAPA Expo celebration event along with many other first-time riders and everyone was grinning from ear to ear or outright laughing as they departed the station. However, loading times are just as bad, if not worse.
Does it solve the standup coaster's problems? Maybe not, but I look forward to riding it again. I would also go out of my way to ride another. That's two things I can't say about a standup.
 
this is a wild take, but in terms of pure 'fun', the best standup coaster I've ridden was the old standing+sitting togo one at yomiuriland. Its an absolute nothing of a layout but something about the way you hung over the first drop was just butterfly inducing in a way the others didn't do it for me. (for reference, i've been on pipeline, riddler, and the old mantis otherwise)

pipeline was fun for sure, not uncomfortable to me and had surprisingly good forces (high+low). But I do miss the thrill of creeping over a steep drop while standing
 
I walk from the car through the parking lot to the park entrance, around the park all day from ride to ride, and then I stand in line for a period of time to ride a roller coaster.

The last thing I want to do when I get to the ride is to continue standing up, I want to sit down and relax! Even if it's just for a couple short minutes. So put me in the boat of never really understanding the concept or notoriety.

I like Riddlers Revenge, but that's because of the layout, and honestly, I would prefer sitting. Always nice to see the industry trying to innovate, but there's nothing about Pipeline, the uninspired layout nor the "new" trains, that would tempt me to make another trip out to the park.
 
I haven't given Pipeline a spin yet, so I can't speak to whether I think it has "solved" anything or not, but regardless of that, the real evidence of the success/failure for this next-gen stand-up concept will be found in whether or not other parks take the substantial investment plunge to install more of them in the coming years.

I'm sure B&M dumped a fair bit of coin into R&D on this, so if Pipeline remains a one-off........
 
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