I can join in the conversation at last!
What an oddity.
First up, I thought it was a generally well made film. Production values are always very high in the HP films, so no problems there. The direction was nice at times, and always good enough to make up for the lack of pretty much anything happening.
Now, I love this book as it's the point in the story where it teeters over the edge and starts to head into the finale. All of a sudden questions are answered and you feel the story getting ready for the massive blast.
I disliked Order of the Phoenix as a book, as I thought it was a bit of a dirge and a drag.
Oddly, HBP is the slower film of the two, until I thought about it. The reason I loved HBP is because of the way it was unleashing the story. Nothing happened apart from finally giving answers and moving the plot on excitingly. In a film, this doesn't work. Whereas all the nothing going on in the plot arc in OOTP that I thought ruined it, was good stuff in a film.
Sometimes films work better than books and vice versa.
I think with what they had, the writing and direction was actually pretty bloody good. The humour was well placed and spot on to relieve what was essentially a lot of dull dialogue.
The biggest problem though is with slab face Radcliffe. His acting range goes from Poe-faced fluffing of lines to Poe-faced forced smiles while fluffing his lines. To have such a poorly animated actor in the lead role stifles it.
The reason the shoelace/pie stuff seems to annoying is because the scripts called for "subtle sexual overtones and attraction between Harry and
". Then the director found out that Radcliffe is utterly incapable of any acting beyond the subtleties of playing a face on Mount Rushmore and forced the actress to make things more blatant.
This got me thinking about the character of Harry anyway. Does anyone else think he's a kind of pointless lead. You get the feeling that he's just playing a dumb cow throughout the entire series, being led to slaughter. He has all the endearing charm and qualities of a drooling bovine and his entire success at making it to the abattoir is pure luck and his much more intelligent and interesting companions. I think the film/s compounds this with such a characterless and slap worthy lead.
Anyway, the film is long, and it drags. I also suspect that there are a few too many bits and bobs that people who haven't read the books would struggle to follow. Overall, I think they did the best they could with the source material and the actors.
Now, The Burrow bit. I said to Ben last night that it did seem that they suddenly needed to get more Bellatrix and dumped the scene in just for that. I think that the reality is that the film (apart from the bridge scene at the start) doesn't show the gathering power of Voldemort. It doesn't show how vulnerable the wizarding world actually is to his attacks.
The Burrow scene showed that vulnerability, as well as breaking up a long spell of nothing really happening. It doesn't quite fit as the pace is jarring against the pace of the rest of the film. So it was needed certainly to try and remind people of what is happening outside of Hogwarts, which will become important in the next instalment.
Very glad I saw it at the cinema, and it was probably pretty much what I was expecting. I went with Minor_Furie and his friend, who both said it was the best of the series so far - both are 13. Maybe that's who the film is aimed at?