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Alton Towers | Wicker Man | GCI Wood

Discussion in 'Roller Coaster Construction' started by Dar, Apr 23, 2016.

  1. elephant58

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    https://www.towerstimes.co.uk/sw8/ride-plans/
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    Yeah so basically quite a significant portion of the first bit of the ride just kind of bounced along up in the air just after the lift hill, before finally dropping into the Wicker Man structure at the end of a ridiculously long sound tunnel. No idea why they (whoever 'they' actually is) thought it was a good idea to have basically a long straight followed by a single drop, instead of John's idea which managed to fit a drop, an airtime hill and a really fun double down thing into the exact same plot. This NoLimits recreation not long after the original plans were released might give a better idea of what it would probably have been like:
     
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    I can kinda understand why maybe he was left out of the project initially. He's very much retired now and the new project team will be wanting to create something new on their own merits!

    Although considering how much work John had done previously to get wood to Alton, he's said on record so many times that it's his dream. Infact over the years I'd noticed him campaigning for it numerous times. It seems almost cruel to have not even consulted him in the early stages.
     
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    Also sounds like he campaigned heavily for a woodie before they built the Smiler, I would LOVE to see some of the layouts and themes which he came up with.. Although they didn't go for it on the basis of "Merlin’s reservations on the likely public attitude towards such a ride". Great decision that turned out to be.

    After those initial reservations, Merlin opt for a woodie on their own accord just after the worst accident in the parks history. Go figure.
     
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    I have a feeling that the metaphorical wheels were already well in motion for SW8 before the Smiler crash. The crash, and then the Colossus debacle, leads me to think they wouldn't have built a woodie if they hadn't already developed something 'to the point of no return'.
     
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    Yeah likewise, they'd have gone for a much safer option.

    And yeah as above, the more I think about it the more I think it's unbelievably harsh on Wardley, knowing how much he pushed for a woodie, to treat him as such an afterthought.
     
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    I think it's possible thought that perhaps Merlin is so disjointed that either people thought he was already part of the project, already had been asked, or just simply overlooked because everyone else was so distracted and frantic about the project. I dunno, that's just the impression I get when I think about Merlin in the planning stages for the coaster.
     
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    Yeah the woodie was very much in the pipeline before the smiler crash. They were even doing height tests in the forbidden valley and visiting europa park alot. They had initially planned on opening in 2017.

    Idea sessions for SW9 will already be underway now.
     
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    Had to share this cause I found it funny:-
     
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    Interesting use of the word "funny" there.
     
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    I guess some people have a 'funny' sense of humour.
     
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