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The 'what ever happened to that concept' thread

Discussion in 'General Discussions & Opinions' started by chainedbanana, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. chainedbanana

    chainedbanana Active Member

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    While reading the internet I came across this old article from 2004 about Vekomas 'Pandoras box' concept, and i remember reading this article 13 years ago and the buzz around it at the time, and as far as I can find out... this ride was never actually built. Instead I think many parks went with the cheaper and less complex ABC drop rides, and the concept probably evolved into 'sourin' attractions and 'HPATFJ' style rides. It was also rumoured for a while that Symbolica was going to be this style of ride!

    http://coastersandmore.de/rides/iaapa2004/iaapa1_e.shtml

    Anyway my question is twofold, A..... whatever happened to Pandoras boxes? and B - what concepts can you think of that never really went anywhere....Another I can think of is the Pipeline coaster that Alton considered before Nemesis (that John Wardley deemed too slow/boring).
     
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    I remember GCI coming up with a few which haven't been built. Like I think there was a Switchback-style shuttle and there was also a family coaster variant thing too.
     
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    Hixee Most Knowledgeable Member 2016 Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    The Switchback-style shuttle was successfully achieved by Gavity Gravity Group and Gravitykraft Corporation at ZDT's in Texas back in 2015:
    https://rcdb.com/12392.htm

    It's a reasonably rare cred on here, but @ECG has ridden it and, if I recall correctly, rather liked it!

    EDIT: Thanks @Chris Brown ;)
     
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    Chris Brown Mr CoasterForce 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    Didn't realise @gavin had his own wooden coaster company!
     
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    gavin Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator Social Media Team CF Award Winner 2016

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    I've been trying to keep it quiet to avoid being harassed by goons, but it seems the secret's out.
     
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    Hixee Most Knowledgeable Member 2016 Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    Gavin, your secret's been out for years. ;)
     
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    I meant that GCI's version of something similar to Switchback has not been realised.
     
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    Vekoma's Pandora Box is the main one for me. I really wish it would be built.
     
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    chainedbanana Active Member

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    I could see Phantaisaland utilising this system due to their lack of space (work up instead of out) plus enclosed = no noise pollution.... - spite Temple of the night hawk + Hollywood tour for this!
     
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    Wasn't Efteling meant to be the test park for the Pandora's Box concept? Even though the concept was developed 13 years ago, I wish someone would take it, update it and make it come true at a park that can make something this scale work (Europa Park, Efteling, Universal or Disney).
     
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    Yes I think there was talk of Symbolica being a Pandoras box ride at one point , also there was RUMOR of one going into Phantasialand - this was all before Taron etc!
    I think the whole 'vertical dark ride' concept has a lot of milage to it beyond what ABCrides do!
     
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    I've never heard of Vekoma's Pandora Box concept. Can someone explain?

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    Basically a drop tower (similar to the abc ones used in Dungeon attractions - but on a track i.e. the central pole is on a track - so the whole drop tower moves around! The seats could also tip forward and back and have some sort of motion control! The ride would have been a combo between a dark ride a drop ride and a simulator!
     
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    That sounds really cool.

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    This is it, it's got so much milage.
     
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    So, like a robo-coaster and drop tower combined.
     
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    That looks really cool. I'd definitely try it.

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    Here is another concept I've seen before and yet to see realised - SFX coasters by dynamic attractions - basically a coaster mixed with a 4d and simulator attraction - with drop track elements - and a really interesting sidewards sliding element!

    http://www.dynamicattractions.com/products/sfx-coaster/



     
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    If Im not mistaken Ferrari World is constructing one of these as we speak: https://rcdb.com/12575.htm
    Sure its been in the works since 2015 for just construction and about a year or two behind but its still the concept being put to practice at a park, but I see why people think there isnt any coming (FWs been abnormally quite about this so...)
     
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    Yeah - Its exciting ONE is coming - but it seems to be a long time coming - I imagine its crazily complex, expensive to design and maintain - but I can image this as the future of theme park rides!
     

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