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Hansa Park | Kärnan | Gerstlauer Hyper Coaster

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  1. ECG

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    In their latest newsletter, Hansa Park has put the Fluch von Kärnan drop tower for 2015 rumors to rest by announcing that Kärnan will be a hyper coaster. No real facts were given, not even the manufacturer, other than the groundbreaking will take place this year and construction is expected to take 1 1/2 years. With the announcement the park confirmed that the Fluch von has been dropped from the name, but they want speculation to run ramped so don't expect any further details in the near future or at least until the groundbreaking ceremony.
    Originally rumors were that Fluch von Kärnan was going to be a replacement for the Montezuma drop tower that was closed in 2012, but now it appears that a replacement will not be coming before 2016.

    EDIT BY IAN: Please see press release on page 2.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    Anymore details on the theming? Since it's swedish i guess they're reffering to the old medieval watch tower of Helsingborg:

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    Since the city of Helsinborg was a part of the Hansa trade confederation that would make perfect sense!

    Edit: super excited of course! Since Hansa Park is only a couple of hours from where I live!! :--D
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    ^No info about the theme is being released as the park wants speculation about the coaster to run wild.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    Okay, so let's speculate then!

    What manufacturer could it be? The last two additions at Hansa Park has been made by Gerstlauer. But since Gerstlauer don't make hyper coasters I think it would be safe to rule them out. There's not a lot of empty space in the park to build on, so I doubt it'll be B&M either since their designs tend to be rather spacious (and an out and back layout wouldn't work since there's a road in the west and a railroad in the east). That makes me think it could be an Intamin à la Skyrush (because I want to) squeezed in the northern part of the park where there's still some room left!
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    Really excited for this one!
    Intamin, we need more of that.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    ^^ Well the new Infinity coaster from Gerstlauer would probably work more than well for a hyper design. Otherwise I think Mack could be an alternative.

    But hopefully the people over at Hansa Park has been around the area and ridden Goliath and Expedition Geforce and realized that's what they need!

    I do think (or hope is probably a better word) that we can rule out a ride from B&M.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    Well, there's always Morgan or Vekoma to ask too. Maybe even S&S, seeing as Arrow made a bunch of Hypers in the 90s. Or, you know, Togo, who has vast experience from making Fujiyama and Bandit. Quite a few manufacturers have had their tries at making Hypers over the years.

    Realistically, though, I can see it being Intamin or even Mack.

    Unrealistically, I hope for it being a wooden Hyper. That would have been something. Either way, it will be within affordable distance. Hope I'll get to ride it one day.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    ^A wooden hyper would be awesome! But with Colossos just next door that would be highly unlikely :wink:

    ^^I haven't heared of the Infinity design by Gerstlauer before. But after looking at their web page it's just pictures of Karacho and Smiler. So I guess it's Gerstlauers name for rides without the beyond 90 degree signature drop of Eurofighters? Still, they're writing that the trains can take speeds of up to 130km/h!! Please let it not be Gerstlauer! ><
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    Yeah the newly developed trains are what the Infinity coaster is all about. Karacho did seem to get some good reviews.

    I don't wan't it to be a Gerstlauer either, I'm just saying that there is a chance it might happen, so people don't get to disappointed if it were to be the case.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    IAAPA.

    If the manufacturer is someone not renowned for building Hyper's (Gerstlauer, Zierer, S&S etc.) then surely they would be likely to mention something at IAAPA? I don't mean by telling everyone that you're building a Hyper for Hansa, but you would at least point to the fact that you're now in the business of building 150ft coasters.

    As for my prediction, I think we can remove Intamin and B&M from the conversation, as much as I'd like it to be either of them I can't see Hansa having €20,000,000 to spend on one. Gerstlauer is a possibility, and I'd quite like that to happen, Intamin and B&M Hypers are readily available to us across Europe so It'd be good to try a Gerstlauer contraption. However, my bet goes on Mack building it, they're building their first proper Hyper for Nigloland next year, albeit more of a Mega-Lite, but they're building one, and I think it'll be a success.

    So yeah, Mack is the bet.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    ^ I'm pretty sure they are spending 25.000.000 € on this.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    Well then I'm praying for B&M or Intamin. I get the argument about there not being enough space for a B&M. but from previous instalments they've proved that they can fit one pretty much anywhere!
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    I also read that. If the number is really true I really pray that B&M is not involved, it would be such a waste with money to pay that much for something so dull.

    I also remember that Maurer released the newly redesigned x-train not so long ago, and they are calling it a hyper coaster train. Just throwing it in there. http://www.coastersworld.fr/images/reportages/maurer2013/1.jpg
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    Wow! That's considerably cheaper than Intimidator 305 ($25'000'000) and just as much as Shambhala!

    If those numbers are true we're talking of a real beast of a coaster! Or an incredibly well themed one (which has kind of been a trend at Hansa Park as of lately).
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    >State that a B&M would be a waste of money.
    >Suggests Maurer as a possible manufacturer.


    Mega-Lite please... Intamin or Mack version... That'll do...
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    PRESS RELEASE FROM THE PARK!

    I've run this through Google translate but also sent a copy to EGC who might be able to understand the German better than Google can.

    (I added the CF watermark to track the image on other websites, I'm not claiming ownership of it or anything! Image copyright belongs to Hansa Park.)

    Anyway, although renderings and concept art shouldn't be taken as proof, it looks rather Intamin Skyrushy to me.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    It looks rather Smiler to me.....oh god....
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    ^^ I agree, everything about that picture except the restraints scream wing coaster to me, particularly the faded train in the background and the arm placement of the front wing seated riders.
    Intricks is right though, 4 row trains is worryingly similar to the Smiler, i feel confused.... Will follow this with interest until Gerst is announced then will cry, we need another Skyrush.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    To me it looks like Gler trains, seeing their last two coasters were made by them it would not shock me if they used them again.
     
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    Re: Hansa Park | Kärnan | Unknown hyper coaster

    Looks like a Gerstlauer to me as well, look at Karacho, this is basically those trains just longer.
     

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