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Tivoli Friheden - new coaster to replace Cobra

TPoseOnTantrum

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Very interesting comments made by Henrik Ragborg Olesen (translated);
Tivoli Friheden has already decided what will be on the location instead of the Cobra. Broadly speaking.
It will be a rollercoaster, that much is clear, but exactly which model has not yet been finally decided.
We have been around a lot to gather inspiration. A couple of my colleagues have even been to Sydney in Australia to test drive a roller coaster there. It was more than a day's journey there, where they got off for four hours and rode a coaster, after which they got on the plane again and flew back to Denmark again for more than a day, says Henrik Ragborg Olesen.
The Cobra is erected at the back of the park towards Havreballe Skov. Initially, greenery will be planted on the area, before a new coaster can hopefully be ready on site in 2024.
Regardless of which roller coaster the choice falls on, it won't be ready for the 2023 season and only maybe until the following year.
Initially, we will create a green area where the Cobra now stands. We dream that we can manage to get a contract made for a new roller coaster by 2024, but right now there is a lot of pressure on the factories that make such things, so we will have to see, says Henrik Ragborg Olesen.

https://stiften.dk/artikel/seks-måneder-efter-dødsulykken-nu-starter-arbejdet-med-at-pille-cobraen-ned-det-skal-der-være-i-stedet
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Rupert

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Does anyone know the notional cost difference between the RMC and Intamin single rail coasters? Wondering if Intamin would still be priced lower as trying to break into the market, and if certain features for example the drive tyres and tyre-based braking system make it cheaper.

I think the (now slightly modified) RMC original layout e.g. Railblazer looks pretty great for a compact coaster - I’d imagine it’d fit into the vacated space at Friheden pretty well.
 

Pokemaniac

Mountain monkey
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I decided to split the posts about a new coaster into a different thread. The event that initiated the process of replacing Cobra was a tragedy, and I feel that discussing the new attraction in the same thread that discussed the accident wouldn't be right. There's something that feels disrespectful about making a construction thread out of a thread that initially discussed the tragic death of a rider on a previous coaster. News about the accident, if any, go into the old thread, so this one can be a more ordinary construction thread without that baggage.
 

Boodangy

Roller Poster
Does anyone know the notional cost difference between the RMC and Intamin single rail coasters? Wondering if Intamin would still be priced lower as trying to break into the market, and if certain features for example the drive tyres and tyre-based braking system make it cheaper.

I think the (now slightly modified) RMC original layout e.g. Railblazer looks pretty great for a compact coaster - I’d imagine it’d fit into the vacated space at Friheden pretty well.
I'm not an expert in the field so I don't know for sure but if I had to guess, a deciding factor could also be shipping since for a compact coaster in a smaller park you imagine it's a bigger factor in the overall cost than with a larger investment. Intamin's tracks would (I'm assuming) be made somewhere in central Europe so shipping them in a day by truck is considerably cheaper compared to shipping them on container ships across the Atlantic.
 

MLDesigns

Hyper Poster
^I would assume that is the case as well. Prices for rides are (annoyingly) well-guarded, but I'd guess that the Stunt Pilot model of RMC Raptor is in that mid-single-digit millions of dollars. Couldn't even make an educated guess on what a Hot Racer. Being an Intamin product, I'd wager it would be a little more, but factoring shipping costs into the equation, the Hot Racer could end up being the cheaper of the two. Slovakia to Denmark by truck is much easier than Idaho to Denmark by boat I'd imagine.
 

Indy

Hyper Poster
Does anyone know the notional cost difference between the RMC and Intamin single rail coasters? Wondering if Intamin would still be priced lower as trying to break into the market, and if certain features for example the drive tyres and tyre-based braking system make it cheaper.
Intamin is unlikely to lower the price to break into the market because they've already broken into the market. The challenge is selling the first. They've done that and it's proven to be a successful product. As for specific pricing, there are a lot of variables so it's difficult to provide a blanket notional cost difference. Drive tires and tired-based braking definitely makes it cheaper than a magnetic system as the equipment is cheaper, the programming is cheaper, and the train design is simple. Things like a custom layout will add engineering costs though. Trains are also expensive so the quantity can have a substantial impact from a hardware and programming standpoint. Something like this model that is very short and only has one train is liable to be very inexpensive (low single digit US millions)...
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Gazza

Giga Poster
That said, you have to wonder why a park would get a layout like that. Launch aside, to me it looks like the Intamin version of this:
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