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Thorpe Park - Future Dive Coaster or Hyper?

CrashCoaster

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Thorpe Park is probably getting a new coaster. A dive coaster would make sense because most Merlin Parks have a Dive and Wing. Thorpe Park only has Wing. However people want a hyper. What are your thoughts? ☺☺☺
 
Neither of those are going to happen in all honesty.

You'll be waiting a while for a new Coaster there I'm afraid, DBGT was a Coaster-sized investment.
 
Remember The Swarm wasn't seen as a success for Thorpe. I doubt they'd want to invest in another B&M for some time. I could seem them potentially trying wood if SW8 is a success, but I really can't see a Dive or a Hyper.
 
Ben is right, it will be a while before the next coaster because DBGT cost as much as a giga coaster. Hoping it will be a B&M hyper or RMC when the time comes, we already have the fabulous Oblivion at the Towers and Thorpe has Saw the Ride (a coaster that emphasises its straight-down drop) so no thanks to a Krake esque dive machine!
 
I can't see either a dive or a hyper coming to the park, purely because the main gimmick of them - vertical drop and being over 200ft - has already been done at the park with Saw and Stealth.
 
Merlin's development plans for their parks are: 'low, low, medium, high' in terms of investments per year. This is a high investment year with DBGT, so it won't be until at least 2020 until we see something coaster related (in terms of high thrill), I know someone will try and correct me with the timings of Alton's being off by one year, but that's due to The Smiler incident.

When it comes to what they'll get - we really know nothing, but both of the options on here are incredibly unlikely, well, a Hyper isn't out of the question, but a Dive Machine just won't happen.
 
silenthillXD said:
Remember The Swarm wasn't seen as a success for Thorpe.
Slightly off topic, but why wasn't it out of interest? I always thought it was a success and is a popular ride at the park, but then I wasn't really taking any notice of Thorpe around the opening time. Does it require a lot of maintainence, or hasn't attracted many guests or something?
 
mouse said:
silenthillXD said:
Remember The Swarm wasn't seen as a success for Thorpe.
Slightly off topic, but why wasn't it out of interest? I always thought it was a success and is a popular ride at the park, but then I wasn't really taking any notice of Thorpe around the opening time. Does it require a lot of maintainence, or hasn't attracted many guests or something?

Yeah I totally agree with you, from what I have seen people love it! But apparently the ride failed to increase visitor figures as highly as expected, which considering it was opened around the 2012 olympics was a ridiculous idea anyway. Ultimately I think it did 'well' they just chose to invest in the wrong year.

Though in all fairness it never has the longest queue, but that's probably due to the throughput. Saw and Collossus always seem to be the most popular... It would apear the visitors of thorpe are masochists.
 
Swarm didn't increase visitors as much as they hoped, hence they added the brave it backwards **** and the added theming set pieces in an attempt to wring a bit more popularity out of it
 
Swarm also was seen as a bit tame in terms of intensity, which was another reason for the backwards rows - to "up the thrill factor". Swarm is a well received ride by the large majority of people who ride it, it's just that not enough people came to ride it when it first opened.

As Lofty says, the park's next major investment will probably be due in 2020, and that'll almost certainly be a coaster. Though it'll be interesting to see what the park's medium investment is before then; since their previous non-major investments have all been small for the past christ knows how long
 
I'd say an educated guess being a high capacity flat ride, as that's truly what the park is lacking.
 
My theory with Swarm being one of the shorter queues in the park is partly down to throughput which, unless there is a massive mosh pit in the bag hold area, is excellent. But mainly down to the fact that its so **** awkward to get to The Swarm! There are no thrilling rides close by and you have to walk right back to the dome which is seen as the entrance / exit to the park by most guests. Its basically out on a limb from the rest of the park and quite simply not accessible enough when compared to the other coasters. If a few more rides or a coaster where built in the area of Swarm and another walkway to swarm island were to be created around stealth / tidal wave the popularity would increase dramatically.
 
Chris Brown said:
Its basically out on a limb from the rest of the park and quite simply not accessible enough when compared to the other coasters. If a few more rides or a coaster where built in the area of Swarm and another walkway to swarm island were to be created around stealth / tidal wave the popularity would increase dramatically.

Oh my god, this! It's a fantastic coaster, and everyone seems to love it. I think you've hit the nail on the head saying they need to improve the flow-through towards the area with new rides. Sadly I doubt the island next to Swarm will be used for the next investment if the 'up for development' hints on the map near Loggers means anything.
 
^ I wouldn't read too much into the "Area under development" text. If was earmarked for something of note, they would have splashed a "new ride coming soon" note instead. It's probably there to indicate to guests that the area is, as it says, under development, in case they wonder why there's a ride physically in place but they can't see it on the map. Personally I hope they're building a shrine to Princess Di and will be auctioning off the memorial plaque. I want that plaque.
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Going back to Swarm and it's little island - which I love btw, it's like leaving the congested urban jungle of Thorpe and entering a completely different park - there was a rumour in 2013 that the island woudl eventually be joined to the area near Stealth and a large flat ride would fill the gap. That rumour seems to have died a death.
 
Tourism is a fickle market as many factors can affect visitor numbers such as the weather, big sporting and political events, terrorism, social mobility, price increases, highly publicised coaster crashes so on. Several years ago I viewed amid and Long TDPs as gospel, indicating what will definitely happen at a park. Nowadays I see them more of a bucket list, stuff they'd like to do, but no longer necessarily what will happen. The only thing that's fairly certain with Merlin is their investment cycle but again, that doesn't dictate what sort of ride they'll get. Who, in 2012 after Swarm, would have thought Thorpe's next big thing would be a dark ride? Almost nobody. In a funny sort of way, the unpredictability is exciting!
 
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