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New Google+ Comments on Youtube

PeskyTrimBrake

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Hello fellow coaster addict! As you guys probably have found noticed that Google is trying to make us get a Google+ account to comment on videos. This is my reaction:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTq8TrA3hb4#t=62[/youtube]
What are your thoughts?
 
One day at Google, some idiot decided that it would be a good idea to add links to YouTube comments. Some idiot. That same moron also decided to remove the character limit from comments.

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As a person who rarely reads the comment section unless strictly told to, I didn't even know Google owned Youtube :|
 
The power the merge gives a YouTube channel owner is fantastic. I remember reading about them a while ago and thinking "this will make ECG's job of managing the CF YouTbue channel a thousand times easier."

Then it emerges that it needs to be linked to Google+

Then the headaches start.

The problem is that Google don't understand that normal people:
a) don't have a million IT qualifications like the Google engineers do, so find difficult and technical settings, etc really hard. YouTube was already getting a bit complicated, but it was still within the realms of human intellect.

b) not every YouTube user is a "Google advocate*" and doesn't spend 34 hours every day taking Google up every orifice to become one with Google and to envelope themselves in the multi-platforms that means they can transfer accounts between Google platforms in their sleep whilst writing an article on how the G has had one pixel shade changed finally after months of petitioning them because it was ruining the look of their brand :roll:

As a channel owner, there's a setting to allow YouTubers to comment without having a G+ account. So it's not like they're completely forcing every YouTuber to have a G+ account.

I can also understand Google wanting to create a single experience for all their platforms. It makes it easier for them to manage, and it makes it easier for new users to cope with - a single log on to rule them all.

However, G+ isn't the platform. At best, this is a cynical way to get more people on to G+ I can't really see it any other way. As a channel owner, yes, integrate it and be done. If it adds power to you, then it's good.

For commentators though, it should be linked with all other social platforms. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter - all should be able to just comment and have their comments streamed onto the channel owners G+ stream. There must be a way to do it.

G+ is not a replacement for Facebook and never will be (it fulfils a completely different need). So Google need to stop trying to fight with Facebook and to work out they HAVE to coexist.

The biggest issue is that G+ is complicated. Like a lot of open source stuff, it's incredibly powerful and secure. You need to take time to set up your security and get things right before you start, and to keep on top of it. That's too much for most people who just want to quickly bitch about their boss or post pictures of their dinner. They want a simple setup at the start and do it quickly thing. Facebook does that, G+ does, but you need to consider your "circles" and if you make it public you WILL get complete strangers commenting and you WILL get strangers randomly adding you to their lists of people to broadcast to. G+ makes my head spin, and if technology makes MY head spin, it's not good...


*Okay, okay, okay - FanBoys ;)
 
SO - I went to see what the fuss was about, Clicking on the "add comment" area gives this useful page



so I went looking for help and eventually found



And went to do the linking thing, and the advanced options links brings up


no sign of a link to google plus option, so I try the other tabs


Nor here (nor the other tabs, I'm sure you don't need proof)

Going to the google plus home page and clicking "create new account" gives you



Just seems that evry time a website goes "new and improved", it ends up meaning "screwed up a little bit more" (except CF of course!)
 
Erm, do you have a Google+ account Dan? :lol:

But yeah, that's in images exactly what I was saying - Google wouldn't know how to make something user friendly if you beat them over the head with a HCI* manual.



*Human Computer Interaction - obvs :roll: :p
 
The reason for that is simply due to the fact they just buy stuff and try and bolt it on rather than develop from scratch.

All they actually develop is the software that link one product to the next so it's not fully integrated.

Nothing wrong with doing that but it's just not nice to use.
 
furie said:
Erm, do you have a Google+ account Dan? :lol:

now you mention it, I don't think I do - But I think just about every other site I've seen which requires a login, link to facebook/twiter oir whatever account, etc. will give you the chance to create a new account as part of the process.

Everything I saw last night was "cumbersome" to say the least
 
It does explain why the "link to my G+ account" process failed for you though :p
 
^Doesn't matter if you have a Google+ account or not.
It was broken at the time he tried it. There were many problems during the integration and still are from time to time as they continue to work on various issues. I didn't have a Google+ account and it created one for me. He just needs to try it again and hope that they aren't making a major change at the time, like yesterday's switch of the layout when nothing worked for well over an hour.
 
It's horrible. For a while I had a lot of trouble posting comments. I tried to connect but it didn't let me, but I eventually figured it out. YouTube's really screwed up. They made everything confusing.
 
The strange thing is- I do have a google plus account, and it was linked to yotrube - but I can only post comments in IE and not firefox.
 
That's strange. I can post comments using either browser.
 
I didn't have a Google+ account and it created one for me.

This.

I don't understand what the problems are with the new comment area. I never had a problem before, and I don't have a problem now...
 
Mike said:
I didn't have a Google+ account and it created one for me.

This.

I don't understand what the problems are with the new comment area. I never had a problem before, and I don't have a problem now...

Still won't let me comment in firefox - I'm logged in to a linked account, and when I click on reply or add comment, it briefly brings up a google+ pop up, and then does nothing!
 
Is Firefox blocking the pop-ups? I really don't have a clue to be honest, just chucking stuff out there :lol:
 
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