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http://life.globaltimes.cn/travel/2009-11/485911.html

According to the article above, then there is a big chance that the records for largest and longest coaster will be broken in a few years time...

The new park will be built on the grounds where the Tianjin Amusement Park was, it closed about 2 months ago.

Could this mean that we are going to see the first, tera-coaster with a lift?? and what company could undertake this coaster, or will it be "Made in China"...
 
Canel that extension for The Ultimate :oops: .

With all the new parks popping up all over China its not surprise that records will be broken. They would love to hold the records and it seems they have the financial backing to build major coasters and I'm guessing their planning permission laws for huge parks are not a problem.
 
Well if a strata-coaster is 400ft tall, I dread to think of the size of a tera-coaster.

It would be well, terrifying! :lol:
 
Emmett said:
Canel that extension for The Ultimate :oops: .

With all the new parks popping up all over China its not surprise that records will be broken. They would love to hold the records and it seems they have the financial backing to build major coasters and I'm guessing their planning permission laws for huge parks are not a problem.

What planning permission? If the governemt agrees then it gets built over there from what I understand.
 
Just look the Three Gorges Damn, they just evicted people who were in the way.

But does sound awesome! Long as it isn't Chance Morgan building it....
 
^ Sorry, but Steel Dragon 2k is awesome, it's not super intense in any way, but smooth fast and gives nice air...

Neal said:
Well if a strata-coaster is 400ft tall, I dread to think of the size of a tera-coaster.

It would be well, terrifying! :lol:
Same thing really...
 
The question is what do they mean with "largest"? Since they're writing both longest AND largest they could mean anything from take up the most space to the world's tallest..

Regarding manufacturer we can at least sort out B&M since they don't seem to bother of the world's fastest or tallest. Other than that the only manufacturers who have built giga coasters are Intamin and Chance Morgan? Another possibility is Vekoma who are going big at the moment with all new train and track design, new big multi looper at US Singapore and some crazy drawings on their web-page!
 
Vekoma's also a major contender simply because they have a steel manufacturing plant in China.

What is a "tera-coaster" anyways? 500 feet tall?

The pullout on something like that would have to be gargantuan.
 
^ Tera coaster, when going with the maths prefixes, would be 400+ ft. The same way that Mega coaster is 200+ ft and Giga coaster is 300+ ft.

Strata coaster is something Intamin have come up with for their 400+ accelerators...
 
I think it's safe to rule out a Chinese manufacturer, as they have yet, as far as I know, to build anything other than (near enough) copies of existing coasters. I suppose they could "copy" and enhance something like SD2000, but I think that would be very over-ambitious.
 
Wasn't a Tera-coaster, per Heide's definition, a chain-driven coaster taller than 100 metres?

By the way, poor English translations can really change a ride description. Remember that 80 metres tall Invert that was to open in China, and be the world's longest? It appeared on RCDB and everything.
Then we found Dive Coaster's press release again, who stated that DC was going to be "Inverted", "80 metres tall", and "The nation's longest". The Chinese mixed up "Inverted" with "containing inversions", exaggerated the height, and some nuthead read the length bit wrong.

If this turns out to be the largest coaster in the park, I'll not be surprised. Though, if it's actually going to be an SD2K killer, then Intamin is my bet. Mitch Hawker or The Golden Northamericancentered Tickets should be enough to convince any Chinese investor with the money. Of course, it would be awesome if he, for the very same reasons, went to B&M and convinced them to go even bigger, but it would be as likely that he picks the cheapest manufacturer with a design ready.

Still, not holding my breath.
 
..and to put much merit in these awards, especially the Golden Tickets, is just plain stupid Poke. Trust me on that front. ;)
 
OK then, I'm wrong, you right, etc, etc, etc. What I meant, was that Intamin and B&M have the public opinion behind them when they advertise their coasters for parks. They can point out that the people who actually care, really like their designs, and refer to the various polls. You can't deny that they both are solidly represented in every serious poll testing the best rides in the world.

Of course, this is a secondary selling point to things like cost, maintenance and reliability, so I guess I was wrong when I said that park owners go to Intamin or B&M just because they make good designs. But I think manufacturer reputation can still have something to say when the decision is taken.
 
Can I still say something without sinking further into the bog?

Well, I admit, guest opinions matter the most, and a placement in any poll does not necessarily accurately reflect how good a ride is. We can agree on that. But either way, a manufacturer can use the polls as a reference when marketing their rides. From a marketing perspective, the sentence "This coaster won five Golden Tickets", or even "Our company's designs occupied ten of the top thirty spots in the most renowned coaster poll on the Internet", will help you. Perhaps ever so slightly, and they are worth very little if, say, the ride is unreliable or a nightmare to maintain, but it is a selling point, no matter how accurate it may or may not be. No matter if it was a group of five from SoCal who put it in the top spot, or questionaries handed out to every single park guests in a number of parks worldwide, it is a stamp to put in your ride brochure. Neither the Golden Tickets nor the MH polls do reflect the general opinion of coasters (I bet the public loves Godurix, for instance), but it's still an award to refer to. Will the award bring more people to the park? Not likely. Will it make the design look better on paper? More likely. Does it matter in the end? Pehaps only if you find it hard to choose between two designs.

As you said, people love Steel Eel. They love Mystery mine. Mummy, Everest, even SOB has a fan base. A good coaster is a good coaster, regardless of poll placement. But that poll placement is something a manufacturer can put to use. When a magazine tests different speakers, for instance, the winner of the test often slap that "WINNER!" stamp on their next advert. The same can go for coasters, but to a much lesser scale. It may be put as a sub-selling point, as for instance:

Some ride brochure said:
Our Coaster is an ideal choice for any park of your scale. The Coaster designs are renowned for:
- Easy maintenance
- Good safety records
- Large capacity
- Fits any theme
- Riders love it (the Coaster designs occupied three of the top ten spots in the latest [insert poll], and have won seven Golden Tickets over the past ten years).
- Reduced noise compared to other coaster designs
- etc...

I admit, I made it to be a bigger selling point than it is, and other factors can completely overshadow this, to make the coaster unsellable. But I think my point still stands, to some degree, good ratings can be used to help sell a coaster design, if ever so slightly.
 
^Deal. *Hand shake, then goes quietly back into a corner*

Now, let's just sit and watch. I'll actually be surprised if there will ever be any updates on this.
 
UC said:
A coaster could win a ton of awards, but be a mechanical nightmare, and that would put the ride type in the gutter. By contrast, a coaster could win NO awards, but be reliable and loved by guests, and that ride type would still survive.

Giant Inverted Boomerangs, anyone?

Popular with both the GP and enthusiasts.

Maintenance nightmares.

Two have moved already, and I'd be surprised if the MM one doesn't disappear as soon as they can locate a buyer.

Oh yeah!

Chinese Thrust Air Coasters.
There, back on topic.
;)
 
rollermonkey said:
Giant Inverted Boomerangs, anyone?

Popular with both the GP and enthusiasts.

Says who? :lol: I thought Stunt Fall was appauling. The train designed is beyond retarded for a start..
 
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