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Alton Towers | Unknown | Huss Top Spin | 2025

I’ve never actually rode it. I go to parks primarily to ride rides you cannot get anywhere else. Pirate ships just seem a bit lame nowadays.
 
Pirate ships just seem a bit lame nowadays.
Idk about anything else but pirate ships are also the only ride that are guaranteed to make me sick, no matter how rested, how fed, how hydrated, if I've ridden anything else that day, I'll always be nauseous coming off a pirate ship. Technical Park Pegasus, HUSS Booster, spinning coasters, frisbee rides, no problem.

They look cool, but that's their biggest value imho. Although they do naturally increase capacity at parks.
 
But what else would you do with that giant trench? It's been practically hidden away by the overgrowth around the trench. Surely a refurb of the rides and redoing some of the exterior to give it more presence in the land was a possible option?
I'd say a few different options 🤔

If the park doesn't fill in the trench, you could do a swing ride such as a Pirate Ship or a Gyro Swing. Another option could be a Disko Coaster, an S&S Free Spin or a half pipe coaster.

If the park fills in the trench, it widens options and could be the site of not just one flat ride but two (possibly three even).

It depends on what the park are willing to do to invest in a few ride.
 
It's 2035. Winter Wonderland is now £30 per ride and starts in September. The big one has been replaced by a Morgan hyper which bankrupted the Thompsons and it still stalls. It's called the Bigger One. Also, the Bakerloo line now goes to Kent.

Alton Towers is now Completely themed to marmalisation. The wickerman's story has been retrospectively changed to the origins of human hypnosis. The dark forest is now themed to asylum escapees. Alton Towers is referred to in-narrative as the Alton Asylum Hospital. It turns out Emily Alton was actually Doctor Kelman, founder of the Ministry of Joy and government employee, all along. All the staff are instructed to ask guests 'WHY AREN'T YOU SMILING' at every given opportunity - particularly when there's a ride breakdown... Which is now a guarantee included in the £150 entry to the park so you have the full, immersive, experience.
 
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For real though - Such a shame that the park have decided to completely bulldoze the mystery that Forbidden Valley once had in place for MORE weird future high-tech military-esque stuff. I just feel like this kind of future-experimental vibe is far better suited to X-Sector.
 
Alton Towers is now Completely themed to marmalisation. The wickerman's story has been retrospectively changed to the origins of human hypnosis. The dark forest is now themed to asylum escapees. Alton Towers is referred to in-narrative as the Alton Asylum Hospital. It turns out Emily Alton was actually Doctor Kelman, founder of the Ministry of Joy and government employee, all along. All the staff are instructed to ask guests 'WHY AREN'T YOU SMILING' at every given opportunity - particularly when there's a ride breakdown... Which is now a guarantee included in the £150 entry to the park so you have the full, immersive, experience.

And John Burton has tranformed full time into Miles Cedars, he greets everyone at the gates everday like..

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Just curious - are people confusing the Ministry of Joy narrative with The Phalanx narrative..? Because, I can see why you would, but they definitely sit different 👀
 
It’s not the narrative, it’s the whole theme. Forbidden Valley has been turned into X Sector part 2. Gone is the rust and decay, the bone and the sinew, to be replaced by Black and Red. X Sector was all about Black and one single other colour. Oblivion; black and Orange. Smiler; black and Yellow. Enterprise; Black and Green. Submission; Black and Blue. Now we have Nemesis with Black and Red, and “Toxicator” with Black and green. Both rides fit right next to the X Sector rides in a way that Ripsaw never would.

Like I feel the new ride would work far better in submissions old plot. Even the name “toxicator” reminds me of the Smiler and the different names of the “arms” that marmalise you.
 
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Yeah I definately preferred the rustic OG Forbidden Valley feel, it had an air of mystery about it and was way more subtle in its delivery, the old audio helped add to this. It had been diluted other the years anyway with Ripsaw removed, Nemesis Nosh bus removed etc..

I still really like the new theming and think they have done a great job but it's way more in your face from the moment you walk under the new signage and see the huge helicopter and everything now painted black with a definate X-Sector feel to it.

The old buildings were just themed better too. If we look at the old Ripsaw cafe building compared to the new shop that replaced it.

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And a picture of the Nemesis Nosh bus just because it was an awesome example of the OG theme

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It’s not the narrative, it’s the whole theme. Forbidden Valley has been turned into X Sector part 2. Gone is the rust and decay, the bone and the sinew, to be replaced by Black and Red. X Sector was all about Black and one single other colour. Oblivion; black and Orange. Smiler; black and Yellow. Enterprise; Black and Green. Submission; Black and Blue. Now we have Nemesis with Black and Red, and “Toxicator” with Black and green. Both rides fit right next to the X Sector rides in a way that Ripsaw never would.

Like I feel the new ride would work far better in submissions old plot. Even the name “toxicator” reminds me of the Smiler and the different names of the “arms” that marmalise you.
Reading that makes it sound like just the colour scheme. But I'm with you, it's definitely more than just the colour scheme, the whole 'secret government installation' thing is very X sector. Right from the entrance gate, whilst not at all like x sector in it's design, it definitely 'feels x sector.'

That being said, I'm not against it at all. I think the ideas we've had so far, with reborn and sub terra, fit the Nemesis and FV story perfectly. But I guess that's subjective.

We should probably just be happy they're still trying to fully theme areas, and rides into those areas. Because I worry that if Universal goes ahead, they'll move more towards a well landscaped amusement park, and essentially stop trying to compete in the themed experience field. Just a hunch though.

Those entrances side by side...

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Theming is a bit weird for the area of the park. I keep seeing "new record-breaking ride" on the news and honestly I am so close to writing cease and desist letter to Merlin. Merlin could build the biggest SBF Visa and it would "new record breaking ride"
 
Theming is a bit weird for the area of the park. I keep seeing "new record-breaking ride" on the news and honestly I am so close to writing cease and desist letter to Merlin. Merlin could build the biggest SBF Visa and it would "new record breaking ride"


"The only topspin in the world to be elevated above ground level"

"Standing at a record-breaking 78ft high thanks to its setting on a 16ft elevated platform"


Yeah I thought Merlin were done with the dumb records but seems that they are back for this.
 

"The only topspin in the world to be elevated above ground level"

"Standing at a record-breaking 78ft high thanks to its setting on a 16ft elevated platform"


Yeah I thought Merlin were done with the dumb records but seems that they are back for this.

I find it interesting that that article lists Bianca as the "Vice President" of Alton, as opposed to the Divisional Director.

I wonder if it's just a mistake, name change, or whether there has been a level of restructuring at the park?
 
I find it interesting that that article lists Bianca as the "Vice President" of Alton, as opposed to the Divisional Director.

I wonder if it's just a mistake, name change, or whether there has been a level of restructuring at the park?
I believe this is a internal restructuring with a job title change for the Divisional Directors at Merlin.


It was mentioned on a reply by Towers Times/Attraction Source on Twitter/X when this question was asked to them recently.
 
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