theyoungentrepreneur
Roller Poster
What company made the Griffon and Fahrenheit rides? And how much does it cost? Any estimates?
What company is the makers of Griffon & Fahrenheit Coast
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Griffon was built by B&M (Bolliger & Mabillard) and cost about $15,600,000.
Fahrenheit was built by Intamin and cost about $12,100,000.
RCDB (Roller Coaster Data Base) is great for finding information like this, check it out:
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Fahrenheit was built by Intamin and cost about $12,100,000.
RCDB (Roller Coaster Data Base) is great for finding information like this, check it out:
www.rcdb.com
theyoungentrepreneur
Roller Poster
Thank you so much! I'm working on a business plan. And still thinking what rides could I put in a theme park. And what lot area should I need for it? And How much investment should I need? Do you have any idea?
alexr
Hyper Poster
What is the location you have planned?
Have you done any Market research?
What's your target Market, is there any competitors near by?
What type of company do you intend to be, Private Limited company or Public?
What Manufacturers do you want to involve in this?
These are some of the questions I would think about if you were planning a Park.
Have you done any Market research?
What's your target Market, is there any competitors near by?
What type of company do you intend to be, Private Limited company or Public?
What Manufacturers do you want to involve in this?
These are some of the questions I would think about if you were planning a Park.
theyoungentrepreneur
Roller Poster
My location is Philippines. And yes, i'm done with my market research. My target market is from age 5-70 years old. And there are 2 small competitors in our country. I want to have a private limited company. And for the manufacturers i'm still thinking. But I want to have Like Griffon, Fahrenheit and 2 more giant coasters. Then small rides after.
Right, this all sounds a bit daft to be honest. Your target market is 5-70 year olds? Seriously? How many people does that realistically exclude? Not many.
Also, you want to open a massive theme park, with huge rides costing huge sums of money, just to compete with two smaller parks?
This all sounds a bit silly to me. What is this for, if you don't mind me asking?
Also, you want to open a massive theme park, with huge rides costing huge sums of money, just to compete with two smaller parks?
This all sounds a bit silly to me. What is this for, if you don't mind me asking?
alexr
Hyper Poster
Who are you going to find to help finance your company?
Also B&M's are not cheap, you would be better with Vekoma to get more rides in the park. Flat rides, Zamperla and Huss would be good for a starting park, Also an S&S launched coaster would be affordable for a smaller park.
How Big is the site you intend to work with?
Also B&M's are not cheap, you would be better with Vekoma to get more rides in the park. Flat rides, Zamperla and Huss would be good for a starting park, Also an S&S launched coaster would be affordable for a smaller park.
How Big is the site you intend to work with?
theyoungentrepreneur
Roller Poster
People include? Not many? I don't think so, sir. You don't get my point. In theme park industry in the Philippines is still raw. Meaning new big theme parks would attract many Filipinos because two competitors didn't give them much satisfaction. Brand loyalty among their customers can be easily ripped off by bringing in new bigger parks which they will enjoy. Plus, most of Filipinos love hanging out with their family during weekends and schools mostly conduct their trips in theme parks.
theyoungentrepreneur
Roller Poster
@ alexr
Sir, I have 3 friends who are venture capitalist. And they are willing to invest in my business plan as soon as I'm done with it. I'm in the part of financials. All the expenses and stuff that would finish the work.
Okay. Thank you for your advice. What rides do you suggest that I must include in a theme park? I mean all in all. from huge coasters, to family ones and to other rides.
Honestly, I don't have yet the idea of how big the site would I be needed. Do you have any suggestions, Sir?
Sir, I have 3 friends who are venture capitalist. And they are willing to invest in my business plan as soon as I'm done with it. I'm in the part of financials. All the expenses and stuff that would finish the work.
Okay. Thank you for your advice. What rides do you suggest that I must include in a theme park? I mean all in all. from huge coasters, to family ones and to other rides.
Honestly, I don't have yet the idea of how big the site would I be needed. Do you have any suggestions, Sir?
theyoungentrepreneur
Roller Poster
@ alexr
What rides you suggest to replace the Griffon on my list? And what ideal site area would you suggest for a big theme park?
What rides you suggest to replace the Griffon on my list? And what ideal site area would you suggest for a big theme park?
alexr
Hyper Poster
Sounds good and good finacial backing....
Here is a couple of examples
S&S Screaming Swing , good family ride.
Pirate Ship By zampela http://www.zamperla.com/en/product/117/ ... egory_id=3
Vekoma Mine Train http://www.vekoma.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=12
Vekoma SLC http://www.vekoma.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=16
Mack water ride http://www.mack-rides.com/en/products/w ... index.html
Mack Twist n splash http://www.mack-rides.com/en/products/s ... -info.html
Mack Launch coaster http://www.mack-rides.com/en/products/c ... -info.html
Mack WIld Mouse http://www.mack-rides.com/en/products/c ... -info.html
Intamin Vertical Lift coaster, Like Fahrenheit http://www.intaminworldwide.com/amuseme ... fault.aspx
Intamin Half Pipe http://www.intaminworldwide.com/amuseme ... fault.aspx
These are just some Ideas may post more later
I am not sure however 40 Acres upwards would be good.
theyoungentrepreneur
Roller Poster
@ Alexr
Thank you so much! You are really helping me alot.
@ -lofty-
Yes, it is. Actually, Philippines is way behind now against our fellow Asian neighbors in terms of theme parks. And I guess we need to do something about it. Are you interested to invest? Looks like you are in Malaysia?
Thank you so much! You are really helping me alot.
@ -lofty-
Yes, it is. Actually, Philippines is way behind now against our fellow Asian neighbors in terms of theme parks. And I guess we need to do something about it. Are you interested to invest? Looks like you are in Malaysia?
Lofty
CF Legend
theyoungentrepreneur said:@ Alexr
Thank you so much! You are really helping me alot.
@ -lofty-
Yes, it is. Actually, Philippines is way behind now against our fellow Asian neighbors in terms of theme parks. And I guess we need to do something about it. Are you interested to invest? Looks like you are in Malaysia?
Ha. Am I interested in investing? No, thanks for the offer though..
I'm going to Malaysia next year!
theyoungentrepreneur said:
The poulation of the Philippines is around 92 million. By giving a target market based just on age with a 65 year gap, you are telling us that you wish to target EVERYBODY within those ages. I'm not sure, but I reckon that's going to be about 50 million+ people easily.
In the theme park industry, the 2 most common target markets are the 'family market' (families with children between 2-12) and the 'thrillseeker market', which I think is people around the 13-22 range.
I'd seriously reconsider creating this business plan if I were you, especially considering how you're unsure of what target markets are!
You don't even seeem to be sure of how much land you would need, let alone where you are going to find this land, how much this land will cost in the first place, how much it would cost to transform this land into a suitable space for an amusement park (water, electricity, sanitation, landscaping...etc...etc...).
I'm also concerned about how you think the best way to build a brand new park would be to plonk down some rides which cost 10s of millions to build and maintain...etc...
And those points don't even really start to think about any externalities/PESTLE analysis that your park would create.
Unfortunately, real life isn't like Roller Coaster Tycoon were you can plonk anything anywhere in the blink of an eye!
alexr
Hyper Poster
I agree with Mike, Get your target market sorted, in your case it may be a Family park. Determine a good location, think about pricing advertising and the rest of the PESTEC factors.
Before you start to think about rides I would think more about setting and look at how other Theme Parks have succeeded and Failed, look at Hark Rock Park for example, good Idea, wasn't well known enough to succeed. Look at good Family Parks ride line ups to get a couple of Ideas as what have been successful for those parks.
Basically before you even think of rides, do other preparation first.
Before you start to think about rides I would think more about setting and look at how other Theme Parks have succeeded and Failed, look at Hark Rock Park for example, good Idea, wasn't well known enough to succeed. Look at good Family Parks ride line ups to get a couple of Ideas as what have been successful for those parks.
Basically before you even think of rides, do other preparation first.