Thorpe Park | Hyperia | Mack Hyper Coaster | 2024
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VonRolland
Hyper Poster
The stall loop is hangtime not airtime, knew it wasn't gonna be that number
JoshC.
Strata Poster
Thorpe said in the passholder group that this data has come from Mack and their "experts".
I expect the idea is more the time of experiencing negative g-force, although airtime rolls off the tongue easier. I expect this is a pretty common industry phrasing, based off other attraction claims for their total airtime.
Hangtime and airtime are ultimately the same thing. You’d be feeling the same thing on a slow stall at -0.8g and a fast airtime hill at -0.8g, for example.
Graeme
Roller Poster
For me, airtime is great because you're defying gravity. You can't get that exact feeling unless you're actually floating upwards away from the Earth. Hangtime, in my opinion, is not a great deal of fun, as it's the normal pull of gravity, just with you upside down. Call me crazy, but I'd much rather that was a dive loop than a dive stall. Either way, there's definitely loads of airtime on the non-inverting immelmann - looks like it's very strong for 2.2 seconds. It's the outerbank I can't get my head around - whether that's going to be more like airtime or hangtime.
Fleetwood_Mack
Mega Poster
I have to admit that my inner monologue has been arguing about hangtime recently.
Going between - "I hate hangtime, it genuinely frightens me sometimes" and "Yeah... but... don't we want to be scared?".
My first ride on this thing going to be an emotional rollercoaster, as well as a literal one.
Going between - "I hate hangtime, it genuinely frightens me sometimes" and "Yeah... but... don't we want to be scared?".
My first ride on this thing going to be an emotional rollercoaster, as well as a literal one.
I'veGotFourB&MsInMyGarden
Mega Poster
The second train has been put into operation today!
(Source: Me, I saw it)
(Source: Me, I saw it)
DelPiero
Strata Poster
Hangtime is not airtime. A proper stall, such as Wildfire or Zadra is genuine upside down weightlessness and is great airtime, hanging upside down with your full weight on the restraint is not. Typical stat padding.
I'm still hopeful that with a full train this speeds up a bit through that element.
I'm still hopeful that with a full train this speeds up a bit through that element.
jasone
Roller Poster
I kind of feel the same and i guess its down to personal preference.
For example i have Toutatis above Batman Gotham City escape purely for this reason (well, also cause of themeing too). I prefer the floaty stall on Toutatis and the rapid airtime hills on the launch. Batman GCE is amazing, but the stall is much more hangtime than floaty, and the first inversion is also much more hangtime than floaty. I actually just find hangtime a bit uncomfortable in most scenarios.
I'm hoping the stall on Hyperia is just floaty enough to make it feel a bit more comfortable than something like BGCE.
Crazycoaster
Giga Poster
I have always kinda hated hangtime on most rides, Stan Checketts rides are awful (El Locos/sky swats/screaming squirrels would all be better as scrap metal). It’s not as bad on well designed lap bar coasters, or the snug wing coaster restraints, but it’s still not pleasant.
I think when a stall element gives hangtime, rather than weightlessness, it’s badly designed. Isn’t the whole point supposed to be that you’re upside down without feeling like you are? Wildfire does it perfectly, Toutatis was a bit disappointing as you still “hung down”.
I think when a stall element gives hangtime, rather than weightlessness, it’s badly designed. Isn’t the whole point supposed to be that you’re upside down without feeling like you are? Wildfire does it perfectly, Toutatis was a bit disappointing as you still “hung down”.
Coasterfreck
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The lifthill staircase has now been fully completed, with stairs now going down to the ground.
Image from Attraction Source: https://www.attractionsource.com/future-developments/project-exodus/#28apr24
Image from Attraction Source: https://www.attractionsource.com/future-developments/project-exodus/#28apr24
InvertsAreMyJam
Mega Poster
I’ll admit I haven’t been on many coasters at all. So I’m not quite sure what hangtime feels like. But during the inversion om Cheetah Hunt, my body basically fell upside down and was stopped by the restraints. It wasn’t a very pleasant feeling. When I hear about hangtime that’s what I imagine it being.
InvertsAreMyJam
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roomraider
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It looks like a box a particularly pretentious startup would deliver a new watch in.Its the tiny pathetic wings for me on the sideIts nice they tried but It doesn’t give anything
InvertsAreMyJam
Mega Poster
These comments are killing me. Y’all are hilarious.
CaliAngel
Roller Poster
Really? Because from what I remember Cheetah Hunt's only inversion was so quick that it barely felt like an inversion to me at all, but I only rode it once...after a couple beers lol
Hangtime, IMO, is more like where literally the only thing keeping you there is the restraint, like a sustained inverted track that we're seeing become a lot more common since RMC started doing it.
Good examples are Goliath @ SFGAmerica and Zadra @ Energylandia.
But a ride like Full Throttle @ SFMM actually has it too, because it almost feels like the train is going to come to a halt once you're upside down in that first loop, lol, but that is not quite as common.
InvertsAreMyJam
Mega Poster
Ah, that makes sense. But also strangely enough I remember Cheetah Hunt’s inversion being quite slow. But also I rode the first train of the day so maybe it wasn’t warmed up yet?