ScottLann
Mega Poster
The new spine has been installed and it looks huge! Love the spikes 
https://x.com/ThemeParkGuide/status/1757364073916698626?s=20
https://x.com/ThemeParkGuide/status/1757364073916698626?s=20
Alton Towers | Nemesis Reborn | B&M Retrack | 2024
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Crazycoaster
Giga Poster
I do love what they’re adding to the station, but I still don’t understand why they went for matt black on the track though?
Like you can clearly see that the “rails” are part of the creature, even in the new design:
So why did they make the decision to paint the track black?? The monster isn’t black.. it’s grey??
Like you can clearly see that the “rails” are part of the creature, even in the new design:
So why did they make the decision to paint the track black?? The monster isn’t black.. it’s grey??
Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
(At the risk of dragging up an old subject again) Under new lore that track is restraining the creature, the creature has been growing around it kind of like how a tree grows around supports holding it up. (See chained Oak.)
The monster is literally tearing the track up in the latest marketing video...
I don't like the idea that the track is pinning down the monster. It's silly.
I'm also not the biggest fan of the idea that the coaster is the monster.
I think it should be simpler:
I'm also not the biggest fan of the idea that the coaster is the monster.
I think it should be simpler:
- Alton Towers were building a roller coaster.
- During construction a monster was awakened underground.
- The monster grew and wreaked havoc on the coaster track.
FogZog
Mega Poster
I think it’s a cool idea Towers pulled together.
Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
Yeh sorry, I agree with Fog, I prefer both the original 'monster is the track' story, and the newer 'track restraining monster' idea. Work awakens a beast is pretty 'mid.' (Look son, Dad is a cool kid.) It's been done before, even at Towers itself.
There has always been an element ‘massive steel structures pinning the monster down’ - see Wardley’s comments from about 14:00 here:
With his references to ‘exo-skeletal tentacles’ it sounds like the track was the tentacles, with the coaster supports being what is ‘pinning it down’. But it’s not absolutely clear.
I’m pretty sure the Sub-Terra pre-show circa 2012 also made reference to pinning the beast down with steel (I haven’t been on it since).
Also… the marketing piece above doesn’t expressly say that the steel structure pinning the monster down IS the track.
So I don’t think there is anything ‘new’ - beyond perhaps them saying the steel pinning the monster down is specifically 250 tonnes, which presumably the weight of the coaster track, for the sake of it sounding impressive. And as soon as you make that connection that it’s the weight of coaster track, you should probably also remember that it’s entirely fictional and doesn’t really warrant thinking about it too much
With his references to ‘exo-skeletal tentacles’ it sounds like the track was the tentacles, with the coaster supports being what is ‘pinning it down’. But it’s not absolutely clear.
I’m pretty sure the Sub-Terra pre-show circa 2012 also made reference to pinning the beast down with steel (I haven’t been on it since).
Also… the marketing piece above doesn’t expressly say that the steel structure pinning the monster down IS the track.
So I don’t think there is anything ‘new’ - beyond perhaps them saying the steel pinning the monster down is specifically 250 tonnes, which presumably the weight of the coaster track, for the sake of it sounding impressive. And as soon as you make that connection that it’s the weight of coaster track, you should probably also remember that it’s entirely fictional and doesn’t really warrant thinking about it too much
Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
Yes it was the supports, I think, hence the different colour, and other references you mentioned. But the difference now, and what I believe is new, is that it's the whole track, hence the mention of '250 tonnes' of steel. Not a hill I'm willing to die on though, because it's not clear, and the veins down the track do throw it wide open.There has always been an element ‘massive steel structures pinning the monster down’ - see Wardley’s comments from about 14:00 here:
With his references to ‘exo-skeletal tentacles’ it sounds like the track was the tentacles, with the coaster supports being what is ‘pinning it down’. But it’s not absolutely clear.
I’m pretty sure the Sub-Terra pre-show circa 2012 also made reference to pinning the beast down with steel (I haven’t been on it since).
Also… the marketing piece above doesn’t expressly say that the steel structure pinning the monster down IS the track.
So I don’t think there is anything ‘new’ - beyond perhaps them saying the steel pinning the monster down is specifically 250 tonnes, which presumably the weight of the coaster track, for the sake of it sounding impressive. And as soon as you make that connection that it’s the weight of coaster track, you should probably also remember that it’s entirely fictional and doesn’t really warrant thinking about it too much
I guess we'll wait and see... Either way, I love the whole concept, and still think it's one of the best original story driven themes out there. Hoping they come out with a lot of new supporting material, like the comics, and other merch.
P.s, I've seen that video a few times, but boy do I enjoy watching him talk...
Nicky Borrill
Strata Poster
If that's aimed at me, then I've no idea... I know what the original story said, but if that's changed then I've no idea. I'm just quoting Alton Towers official website here...
Of course it could be that the website is a mistake. But it's been this way since 2019, the earliest mention of this potentially 'new' lore, that I can find on way back machine. Interestingly They were probably planning the refurb around then...
Nemesis | Theme Park Ride at Alton Towers Resort
Ride the iconic Nemesis rollercoaster at Alton Towers Resort. A must for any thrillseeker.
web.archive.org
If this isn't a mistake (that's now spanned 5 years,) and it is the new lore, then I guess there's some explaining to do... Like what are we riding? The answer to that, as it currently stands, is a rollercoaster, that they constructed from the metal used to pin down Nemesis. And honestly, anybody would have to agree, that's crap compared to the original story.
Efteldingus
Mega Poster
FogZog
Mega Poster
So is the creature just an eye now? Rolling around the woods?
VonRolland
Hyper Poster
Such a shame I won't be available to watch all the chaos in the Valley that day
spicy
Giga Poster
Less than a month to go! Exciting times
The only thing I think could get me more excited now is if they release another advert for it showing the red waterfalls are back....yeah, I know, it won't happen
I know they can't use the red water dye anymore but I am surprised they haven't bought the waterfalls back.
That would have been my number one theming element to bring back as they add so much to the area but they just haven't bothered.
I'veGotFourB&MsInMyGarden
Mega Poster
We don't know that for certain. This might be a bit of a reach but the promotional email from today talked about "enhancing blood flow". Some are speculating that Towers have in fact found a way to bring the blood waterfalls back. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FogZog
Mega Poster
I think its a reach. Thats just their explanation for the awful track pattern/colour
