Knotts Berry Farm 2023
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Lori Marie Loud
Giga Poster
Booo! 
(referring to the height change not Matt's post)
EDIT: It's actually not even a hyper. It's 180 feet for the drop.
(referring to the height change not Matt's post)
EDIT: It's actually not even a hyper. It's 180 feet for the drop.
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roomraider
Best Topic Starter
I would imagine it would be a hyper. Those numbers are for tunnel entry which is not the base of the drop. So if the tunnels low point is 20ft under ground which isnt unlikely then the drop height would be above 200ft.Booo!
(referring to the height change not Matt's post)
EDIT: It's actually not even a hyper. It's 180 feet for the drop.
While disappointingly smaller and shorter; it's really worth emphasizing this new layout would put the coaster deeper into the heart of Knott's property, away from private property/nearby neighbors. Surely not an accident, and could be a simple tactic of what would be passed by the local zoning board.
Indy
Hyper Poster
Given that Buena Park is listed at roughly 75 feet above sea level, it is probably in the 170-175 ft height range with a 200-220ish ft drop, so more in SFOG Goliath territory. Maybe disappointing from a hot, nasty speed standpoint, but B&M's smaller hypers tend to be pretty fantastic.
Lori Marie Loud
Giga Poster
Yes, but the only thing that hits even 300 feet there is Superman: Escape from Krypton. 200 feet at least has Goliath.
nCalCoasterRider
Roller Poster
not entirely, the dynamic loads from a train would need to be combined with the dynamic loads for the earthquake. There are flexibility requirements but for steel structures, it's more about ductility (Bending before fracture) than about flexibility. Keep in mind there are multiple other B&M coasters in California, and steel structures in downtown LA that are 3 times as tall as this. So Designing for earthquakes is important, and will change the design from a what it would be in, say Ohio, but it won't change the cost by more that 10% and it won't fundamentally alter the structural system.
Youngster Joey
Strata Poster
Looks like it'd actually be a B&M Mega but the fact that they'd have to shut down a major road to build that tunnel under it makes me highly skeptical of that layout being the one chosen. I absolutely believe it was another proposed layout, along with several other proposals we haven't seen, we'll just have to wait and see which one they actually chose whenever it get's announced.
RcTmix
Mega Poster
Whether it ends up a Giga or a Hyper, it should be a good, high capacity addition to the Knotts lineup. Hopefully not too many folks will fault the park for having the nerve to add “just a mega coaster” if it doesn’t end up being the “taller, faster, longer than Fury 325” monster we initially hoped for.
roomraider
Best Topic Starter
Needless to say B&M have plenty of experience designing coasters in Earthquake zones as it is. Not just the Californian B&Ms but out east. From the Japanese Inverts and Flyers to the the Floorless and Dive Machine in Taiwan all are in areas with strong rules on earthquake resistance being built into structures. Not exactly out of their wheelhouse.
Wow shots fired.
bummer that it's not a giga honestly. But if we do get a hyper at knotts, I imagine it would be the best ride in the park and could challenge Magic Mountain's top coasters for the best one in the state... I gotta knock X2 in my rankings for its terrible capacity and slow ops and twisted colossus for basically never dueling .
TPoseOnTantrum
Giga Poster
Time to throw yet another monkey wrench into the mix;
To not read too hard into a quite hilarious Twitter response - it could simply allude to no plans having *actually* been formally submitted. But glad to known Buena Park is thumbing through those sub threads!
CrashCoaster
CF Legend
It looks
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