It's not so secret though because it's one of Europe's largest theme parks...
Something like that, i do wonder how they will develop the park in the next 10 years as they've seemed to stop buying traveling coastersso when all this construction is completed, they will be one coaster away from tying sfmm for most coasters, yeah?
i'm surprised no park has ever tried to bloat their way into this sort of record before. seems an obvious marketing strategy...
Interesting comparison, with 1 or 2 more major coasters I think they'll start edging aheadI am sure they will pair together the mine train with some other family coaster just to get the record, in the same way they have done with Zadra and Abyssus. A lot of people like to talk down on Energylandia's line up. Cedar Point is in a different league to Energylandia but SFMM and EL are pretty similar. I have grouped some of the coasters together (with ELs 3 coasters under construction) and compared them in several battles. Tell me your opinion as well!
Battle 1: Zadra alone vs. Twisted Colossus + Apocalypse
This one is hard as Zadra is elite and neither TC or Apocalypse are elite coasters but I would still take them 2 over Zadra, regardless of Zadra being a beast.
Battle 2: Mayan vs. Batman
SFMM also wins this one. Mayan is the best SLC ever made but Batman still beats it. Both are extremely intense and high thrill rides. Personally Mayan is more intense than Batman but it still has it's SLC jolts which drag it down.
Battle 3: Hyperion vs. Goliath
This is probably the easiest win ever. Nothing needs to be explained. Goliath is a smooth monorail with one forceful helix and Hyperion is a not so smooth beast of a ride. I take the rattling beast any day!
Battle 4: Formula vs. Full Throttle
Formula takes this one. Full Throttle is a interesting ride but it's nothing I would bother lapping due to it being very short and not doing that much. The big loop is cool but in rest is doesn't really do anything and it has probably the worst drop on any coaster. I would even say that as a group Formula's consecutive sidewinder, tight turn and airtime hill easily take FT's loop.
Battle 5: Abyssus vs. West Coast Racers
This one is very speculative as I haven't yet ridden Abyssus but from the POV and layout I think it could take WCR. WCR is a good ride, don't get me wrong, but it's not really an extreme ride. WCR is a family thrill ride. I think Abyssus will be able to take it easily as that thing looks to be a beast.
Battle 6: EL's minetrain vs. Gold Rusher
This one is highly speculative as we don't know anything about EL's minetrain but the fact is that Gold Rusher is a pretty bad minetrain and with a 3 lift Vekoma minetrain EL could probably take cold rusher.
Battle 7: Boomerang + Light Explorer vs. New Revolution alone
You might say this battle is unfair because on EL's side there are only family coasters and New Revolution is a thrill coaster but except for that one small historic loop I think the 2 boomerangs can take on New Revolution easily. If not for anything else both of them have way better theming than New Revolution.
Battle 8: Dragon vs Ninja
Ninja is a cool and unique ride but Dragon is very thrilling (it really surprised me). Ninja has a better setting and length but I think there are some substantial problems in the layout. Dragon's layout is short but great. This is a tie for me.
Battle 9: EL's 5 kiddies vs SFMM's 4 kiddies
This one is a tie as I think they take each other out. EL's kiddies are more diverse and interesting but SFMM's kiddies are a bit bigger.
Speed, Viking, Energus and Frida have nothing similar at SFMM.
X2, Viper, Scream, Tatsu, Riddler and Superman have nothing similar at EL.
Of the battles I think that EL wins 5, SFMM wins 2 and 2 are tied. SFMM still pulls ahead overall with their remaining coasters. Speed is a fantastic ride which SFMM cant challenge. But Energylandia frankly has nothing to compare with elite rides such as X2, Tatsu and Riddler. If it wasn't for these 3 rides I would probably think EL was better. EL has some ways to go to become an elite park but if we look from everything they have built it seems to be of a high quality, just look at them winning most of the battles. In a couple of year they might be the better park.
Are we happy to see EL carry on building coasters or do you think they are at a point now where they need to focus on Flat/Dark rides to make it a complete all rounder?
IMO they should start to focus on dark rides and more immersive theming in the park. The coasters itself draw in the coaster enthusiasts, but won't draw the families staying on vacation in Poland.
I've never been at EL but it seems like the "themed" areas (Dragon Zone, Aqualantis, etc.) lack a smooth transition to the next themed area. All of those areas are connected by wide concrete paths with some green, but no theming. I'd love to see that changed. But maybe I'm just spoiled with Phantasialand being my home park and I should curb my expectations.
Just playing devil's advocate here, but is it possible that they don't need to do that to draw families? This is the first big theme park in Poland and it perhaps gets to set the paradigm for what a family theme park is in Poland.
Now I'm assuming to a certain extent that a lot of their local guests won't have visited large parks around Europe and the US but when the only park you had before EL was Legendias previous incarnation then EL must seem incredible.
Is it just from our point of view as seasoned theme park nerds that we think the park needs dark rides and the local clientèle literally doesn't know what they're missing.
Or am I selling the Polish GP short?
Thank you for the super interesting writeup! Would you mind elaborating a bit further on the EU/Polish Government funding topic? There always seems to be a lot of confusion regarding this topic, with sides screaming "everything in there is funded by the EU" and sides screaming "He's a rich entrepreneur, only a few rides have had funding by the EU/Polish government".Marek Goczał, who didn't want to ruin his family life sold his shoe sole factory along with the smaller businesses. They started planning, travelling around Eurpean theme parks, talking to the owners and so on. They started a great relations with Europa Park. In the early projects, all they wanted to get (roller coasters) was meant to be from Mack Rides. Though, in European Union, if you have an innovative idea, you can apply for European Union funds. They spent A LOT of time writing applications (they used some technical tricks in it, so I won't talk much about it), and finally they received some good feedback. They got their first European Union's dotation. "Investment under a high innovation potential in years 2014-2020". There was a 1 problem though - deadlines. They wanted to start the park with Mack Rides, but they couldn't deliver their coaster projects in time. They received a dotation, so they had to seek for manufacturers, which could deliver ASAP.
Thank you for the super interesting writeup! Would you mind elaborating a bit further on the EU/Polish Government funding topic? There always seems to be a lot of confusion regarding this topic, with sides screaming "everything in there is funded by the EU" and sides screaming "He's a rich entrepreneur, only a few rides have had funding by the EU/Polish government".
I'd also be interested in the tricks they used in the EU funding application, if you're fine talking about that.