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Walibi Holland | Untamed | RMC Robin Hood Conversion

Discussion in 'Roller Coaster Construction' started by JoshC., Feb 6, 2018.

  1. JoshC.

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    Yes, more referring to RMC, though my experience of Hyperion's micro bunny was similar. Forgot about Lost Gravity when writing though!

    I guess I should stress, I'm only going off reviews and how the rides look, since I haven't ridden an RMC. I've never looked at their micro bunnies and thought 'that's there to give some great airtime' - it'll give a pop at best, but nothing spectacular. Reality could be completely different and I might just be talking out my rear end..
     
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    I don't think that element is there to give ejector, though. It's to temporarily alleviate the positive force caused by the drop before yet another positive force of a pull-up into another element. It makes the following element a little more impactful - each of them that has one of these little hops has a strong positive force prior and following, so that would be my guess.
     
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    On RMCs, I would assume the main point of a small speed hill/micro bunny is connect two elements that are unnaturally far apart. Take the one on Steel Vengeance for example. Keeping the lift and the drop the same as they are, the distance between the very bottom of the drop and the start of the giant "top hat" is probably over 100ft worth of space. No reason not tp slap some airtime in the middle of two elements you have to connect anyway.
     
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    Another shot of the element following the turnaround inversion.
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    Taken from:
     
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    Hixee Flojector Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Laaavely.
     
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    Ooh, that's a lovely angle!
     
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    Apparently the park are considering this 97° stall as an inversion, so the ride may only have 4 "actual" inversions.
     
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    Any source for that?

    Not saying I do or don't believe you, but given how the park have been drip feeding information, that very much feels like a claim that can be traced back to the park. Just can't see where?
     
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    So it won’t purely be an inversion only coaster? Good job you didn’t assume that it would be or anything..
     
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    As others have said, I would like a source for this statement, as it is quite a bold statement to make without knowledge of the complete layout.
     
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    Interestingly in their construction log they stated the "step-up underflip" was an "inversion" and this "97° outside stall out" was an "element" instead, asking the RMC worker to explain the difference, which amounted to inverting or not.

    So I can't see that being the case...
     
  12. Hixee

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    But the outside stall and step-under flip are different elements altogether.

    It's like the first element on Outlaw Run compared with the first element in Joker. Isn't it?
     
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    The first element on Outlaw Run, the 153 degree twisted overbank or whatever you want to call it, turns riders more than 135 degrees vertically; therefore it is an inversion. A 97 degree sideways hill would only be counted as an inversion in Parkitect ;), moreso an overbank than a full-out inversion. If it tilted riders more than 135 degrees, then it would become a zero-g stall.
     
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    Every inversion is an element, but not every element is an inversion;)
     
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    don't make Furie pull out the damn chart
     
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    What's The Chart? I must say I'm curious about it!
     
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    Oh my, Matt, you're in for a treat of CF history.

    I'll let @furie have the glory of posting it though, it is his after all!
     
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    I'd love to go a year without seeing THE chart o_O
     
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    furie SBOPD Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Not going to happen @Lofty

    Please note, it's in yellow and is therefore unarguably the truth (it's like hi-vis, wearing yellow makes you invincible)

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