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Tivoli Gardens | Fatamorgana | Huss Condor 2G

Discussion in 'Other Ride Construction' started by TheCoasterCruiser, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. TheCoasterCruiser

    TheCoasterCruiser Well-Known Member

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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    When all that is said, then DKK 100 million is quite a lot in Denmark, for comparison, it's more than Juvelen, or even Piraten cost.

    Tivoli do not have a lot of space at their disposal but the new ride is supposed to go where the old "Dragen" ride was, beside Dæmonen.
     
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    TilenB Well-Known Member

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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    Or 218327877725 Belorussian Rubles... Which proves the whole discussion we have is rather pointless.
    In my opinion it's certainly less misleading compared to when the pricetags are in British Pounds or US Dollars. These 2 are just a little bit off the value of Euro, but are different enough to always leave me confused in terms that 30m$ seem like a greater sum than 20m£, but are essentially the same (20m£ is actually even a bit more than 30m$). I don't have such a problem with currencies that are different by a factor of lets say 5 (or 7 in the case of DKK) from €, since I can instantly tell something smells funny and convert the sum, before I start complaining around how everything can't be in the currency I'm used to the most...
     
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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    Just pointing out, that is not what I said. I actually said that in Europe, you tend not to see anything other than either Sterling or Euro. I never said anything about a nation not using their national currency.

    But, if this does turn out to be a coaster, then it's good news for them. Damonen was their last coaster I believe, which was opened in 2004?
     
  4. Pokemaniac

    Pokemaniac Mountain monkey Staff Member Administrator Moderator Social Media Team

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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016


    Do you know what kind of height restrictions Tivoli has to play with? Available space? Complaining neighbours?

    As you said, DKK100 million is quite a lot, so they've obviously planned to buy something expensive. Unless prices have hiked significantly since Piraten was built, the money should in theory be enough to give them something on a similar scale, or at least something as big as Dæmonen.

    Now, there could be factors driving the price up, such as construction costs. If Tivoli is open all year, and the construction would block a major throughfare, they might have to build temporary walkways and whatnot. Likewise, construction sites have to be accessible for emergency vehicles, possibly warranting a temporary service road or something. Erecting a building around the coaster would also drive up costs, as would extensive themeing.

    But still, the sum seems to indicate something big will be built. I really hope for a coaster, but still wouldn't totally rule out a tracked simulator ride either.
     
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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    YES!
     
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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    Probably not a coaster. Could be a big flat ride though.
     
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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    What flat would cost anything close to this amount of money? If it's not a coasters it's a dark ride, but I can't see them having the space for a dark ride so I'm pretty sure this will be a coaster.
     
  8. TheCoasterCruiser

    TheCoasterCruiser Well-Known Member

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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    So apparently they're actually getting two new rides. One big and one small.
    Construction should start when they close down for the summer season in one month.
     
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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    Any idea if one is a coaster?
     
  10. TheCoasterCruiser

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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    ^ I have no idea, but since construction should start soon, I'll start stopping by the park now and then to see if we can get any wiser.
     
  11. TheCoasterCruiser

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    Re: Tivoli Gardens Invests DKK 100 Million For 2016

    Still no sign of construction, but I have heard that it is supposed to be a tall ride, that's all they say now, nothing about it being two new rides...
     
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    Re: Tivoli Gardens To Build Huss Condor 2G For 2016

    Okay, so today Tivoli announced their new stuff for 2016.

    It's a new ride-complex called "Fatamorgana" and it includes a new version of the classic Huss Condor and some kiddie bumper cars which apparently will be located beneath the tower.
    In a cheap move Tivoli's marketing department is calling it 3 rides, because the new Condor 2G offers two different ride experiences. A stretch if you ask me.

    A couple of facts:

    Engineering & Fabrication: Huss Park Attractions GmbH, Bremen, Germany, http://www.hussrides.com
    Type: Condor 2G featuring original Tivoli design/Jonathan Gress Wright and Will Gurley, Tivoli Design Office.
    Capacity, total: 900 passengers/hour
    Height, total: 45 m
    Height, gondolas: 30 m
    G-force, thrill-ride: 2.5 G
    Investment: DKK 50 million in the entire area

    So not quite 100 million as first rumored.

    The park hasn't released any concept art yet, but fortunately, Huss has made the drawings of the new Condor available on their website, so here they are:

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    Full press release from today:
     
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    peep Moderator Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    Re: Tivoli Gardens To Build Huss Condor 2G For 2016

    Hmm, that's an interesting design. Announcement isn't as exciting as I hoped it would be though.

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    Re: Tivoli Gardens To Build Huss Condor 2G For 2016

    1. What a massive disappointment! I have also ridden the Intamin version in Malaysia and it wasn't all that exciting.

    2. I love that Huss is building a big new ride in Europe again!
     
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    Re: Tivoli Gardens To Build Huss Condor 2G For 2016

    They should just make the whole tower outer facing seats. You can't see crap in the birds.
     
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    Re: Tivoli Gardens To Build Huss Condor 2G For 2016

    I'm terrible at judging height and distance. Is this going to be pretty much the same as the thing at Gardaland/Ocean Park or is it on a bigger scale?
     
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    I'm truly struggling to to understand why there's two types of experience on offer - surely the one that's outward facing (like the one in Kuala Lumpur) is such a boring experience?


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    Ben Well-Known Member CF Award Winner 2016

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    ^They're both going to be boring, not just the outward facing one!

    Oh Huss, you were so good so long ago.
     

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