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Stick's NL2 Project Page- Unnamed B&M Invert- WIP

Discussion in 'NoLimits Projects' started by GuyWithAStick, Oct 10, 2014.

  1. GuyWithAStick

    GuyWithAStick Captain Basic Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    Hey everyone! I just got NL2 Standard, and after about 3 days of tutorials and failures, I've finally started(and almost finished) my first project! Here it is- Wooden Thunder- a Custom RMC Woodie. It is about 98 feet tall, with(I think) a 114 foot drop at I think 80 degrees. I can't think of stats, the pictures will do more justice:

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    Arial shot.

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    dat drop tho.

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    After the drop into a tunnel, it goes into a (trimmed) airtime hill. It's trimmed due to the utter intensity and speed it would have if it wasn't. After that, it goes into a GCI-style 225 banked turnaround. After that, it goes into an outside 90 degree banked hill(like Outlaw Run).

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    dat GCI tho.

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    There's the bank.

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    After that, it goes into a banked S-Bend.

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    After the S-Bend, it goes into an untrimmed airtime hill that needs a lot of work. Like, a lot of work.

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    And then it goes into a zero-g roll.

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    The zero-g roll from the side.

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    After that, it goes into the brake run.

    Also, I'm having trouble deciding what car to use for this:

    A Gravity Group Timberliner:
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    Or the Heartline cars:
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    Birds-eye view.

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    Drop with train.

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    Overview from other side.

    What do you guys think? Leave a comment below!

    BTW, if the site is down for some reason, I will have another topic that is literally the same thing on the RCTLounge forum page: http://rctlounge.com/forums/showthread. ... post256823
     
  2. tomahawk

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    Re: Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Wooden Thunder(Custom

    Your hills need some serious reprofiling. They are way to sharp and not rounded like they should be. You could kill the trim, and make the turnaround into a double down of sorts, but the hills need reshaping big time.

    For first attempt, and from pictures, it doesn't look bad, except for those death hills.
     
  3. Hixee

    Hixee Moderator Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    Re: Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Wooden Thunder(Custom

    I'll second Tom's comments there, you want to try and get the hill profiles smooth.

    The only other thing I had to comment on, which is absolutely not a problem, but something to note. Outlaw Run's "wave turn" is not just a hill banked sideways, it's actually got a slight bulge in it. I've actually struggled to get a photo that shows it clearly, but you can see in this locked off POV that it's not just a normal shaped hill.
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KqDI599wvE[/youtube]

    If you C&P these coordinates into Google Maps, you'll see how the shaping looks from the top. (36.671958, -93.341701)

    Don't know if that makes any sense, but it might give that particular element another cool boost!
     
  4. GuyWithAStick

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    Re: Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Wooden Thunder(Custom

    Ok, I'm done. I made a POV video. I added a few hills. I just want to get this project over with so I can start on my B... uh, I mean Next Project. :wink:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMoO54onNjg&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

    Oh yeah, I changed the heartline, I edited the transfer track to a fork, and edited a few other things here and there. Still, it's bad.
     
  5. GuyWithAStick

    GuyWithAStick Captain Basic Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Teaser...

    Sorry for double posting, but...

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    Declare yourself Teased.
     
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    Re: Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Wooden Thunder-RELEASE

    Your wooden coaster was quite rough if I'm honest. Your roll nodes were in the wrong places and although I know it was your first coaster, you could have fixed it easily!
     
  7. Hixee

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    Re: Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Wooden Thunder-RELEASE

    I think I'll elaborate slightly by saying that I think you should try to take a lot of shaping tips from real coasters. The more you look at real coasters and take inspiration from their shaping the more realistic you'll find your coasters being. This was a nice concept, but it wasn't hugely well executed. That being said, it's your first coaster and there's a lot to learn with NL, so keep at it! Real coasters are going to help you a lot. :D
     
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    Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Grizzly- Finished(?)

    So I finally found out how to make decent rides in NL2. So I present to you, my first presentable project, Grizzly!

    [youtubevid]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tam9ksP8ZpA[/youtubevid]

    It is a CCI/Dinn Corp. Terrain Woodie(I can't figure out what this ride is more like. It has airtime hills from CCI, but also has the large, swooping turns from Dinn.). I'm planning on turning this project into a mini-park, so stay tuned for more! :)

    By the way, for the 2 of you that care, that last "project" got really messed up. Mid-creation, I finally found out about the depump tool(I know, very much a noob). So I did the completely logical thing, and selected the entire ride to depump. It was broken beyond repair, and I ended up abandoning it. It was supposed to be a B&M Giga with a "launched" lift hill. It was really bad.
     
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    Hixee Moderator Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    Re: Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Grizzly- Finished(?)

    Not bad, but it did feel like it lacked the 'spark'.

    Trackwork was good - you've definitely improved. Pretty smooth throughout, with only a few minor pumping issues (the depump tool will have helped a lot with that, so it's good you've got it sussed out). Some of the banking transitions didn't feel quite right, but I can't really put my finger on it. My suspicion is that you're not using enough roll nodes. I reckon the more accurate (in terms of accuracy to the feel of the real coasters) method of banking the track for those turns is to have five roll nodes throughout the corner:

    1. At the entrance to the corner, banked at zero (or whatever is needed to make it work with the previous element).
    2. At about 1/5 of the way into the corner, banked at the desired maximum banking angle.
    3. At 1/2 way through the corner, banked at the desired maximum banking angle.
    4. At about 4/5 of the way into the corner, banked at the desired maximum banking angle.
    5. At the exit of the corner, banked again at zero (or whatever works for the next element).

    That way you get those corners with big laterals on the entrance and exit, and as the train slows at the top of the corner you get that bit of respite. I don't know if I've explained that I mean well enough, and if that's even how these corners really work, but some of them felt like they'd only use three nodes (1, 3 and 5 from my list above).

    Anyway, I digress. :lol:

    I did think the ride wasn't very... exciting? It might be better if I was actually riding the coaster rather than watching the YT video (it's nice to upload the file, so we can all experience it in full), but I think it was a little too drawn out - although I can see what you were going for.

    Overall, nice. I look forward to seeing the rest of your creations - and hopefully your entries in the 2016 NL2 competitions. :D

    No "restore previous versions" options available to you? That's a shame, but a good lesson I think. The depump tool is good, but use it carefully. :p
     
  10. GuyWithAStick

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    Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Giant Dipper- Finished

    Thanks! The coaster was meant to be a bit drawn out. Dinn is really good at doing that, after all. ;)

    I'd do more NL2 competitions if I had time. High School homework hates me. </3

    Yeah, I have no restore previous versions tool. I have a feeling it might be exclusive to the Pro version, as I have the standard one. I don't want to publish it now. It was pretty bad, even if I depumped it correctly.

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    Anyways, I whipped up another woodie in about an hour and a half. It's a classic John A. Miller woodie called Giant Dipper. I'm quite impressed with myself in terms of realism. You have the curved station, the tunnels surrounding the station, the bend in the lift, the little-to-no-banking, the curved hills, etc. There are a few transition and banking issues, especially toward the end, but I think I'm improving. This was a side project, so this isn't in the park I was doing(at least not yet...). Again, feedback would be helpful.

    [youtubevid]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5jIUPe3VM4[/youtubevid]
     
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    Re: Stick's No Limits 2 Project Page- Giant Dipper- Finished

    I was referring to the restoring functions within Windows, I'm not sure that NL2 has anything like that - even the Pro version.

    This was actually pretty nice - for a small crappy woodie. :lol: The layout was nice, realistic and well made and the pacing was pretty good. The worn track, bent lift, slight rattle in the corners, all worked well.

    Only real criticism I have is that it wasn't very... challenging? I mean, it was good, but don't get stuck in the rut of making these small, old style woodies just because they're relatively easy. I know you have other things in the pipeline, so I'm not really complaining, but maybe show off some of that stuff in your posts too!
     
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    And that I will do!

    So first off, I added Giant Dipper to the park with Grizzly.

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    I added a rough pathway to the coaster's plaza.

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    The plaza currently consists of nothing but the coaster exit and an Observation tower. I am planning on adding benches and bins(and maybe a few custom 3Ds?). But for right now, it's just path with stuff.

    Anyway, onto the WIP coaster!
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    This will be a terrain-based B&M Invert ala Nemesis. It won't have too much inspiration you can point out, but I'll 'borrow' a few ideas. ;)

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    Here is the post-lift section. It's too big to be a predrop, but too small to be a main drop.

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    Right after that, the train will go through an overbank. This is as far as I got, but I do plan on adding a corkscrew right after this(like I said, Nemesis inspiration).

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    Pre-lift. The train will turn out of the station into a little booster section to let it curve up to the lift hill. I usually do terrain before making a coaster, so I wanted it to follow the mountain, hence the odd pre-lift.

    That's all for now. Feedback is welcome as always.
     

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