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Dumb park restrictions

Discussion in 'General Discussions & Opinions' started by TLARides, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. TLARides

    TLARides Well-Known Member

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    So I was looking through some articles about Alton Towers and came across the park's sound restriction.

    I know sound restrictions aren't dumb, and I always knew the park had a height and sound restriction, but the reasoning for the sound restriction was straight up stupid.

    In 2002, a couple living 100 yards started a legal claim on the parks sound.

    First off, why the :emoji_zipper_mouth: would you buy a house, 100 yards away from the most popular theme park in England? Why would you even consider building one there?

    The restriction was placed in 2012 and the park had to pay fines for the noise generated and was forced to move or close several rides.

    Can we all just take a moment to recognize the couples stupidity?

    You guys are probably thinking "Big deal. That was 2012. Welcome to 2017." Well, I don't care if it's 2017 or not, this year's going to be crap anyways.

    So enough of my complaining, it's your turn.
     
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    If it wasn't for "dumb park restrictions" we wouldn't be riding absolute corkers like Nemesis, Winjas and probably Taron. While it may seem restrictive it also sparks creativity having to build around restrictions.

    The one I don't understand is the restriction Thorpe have about coasters being over a certain length (I believe this was outlined in the last LTDP). Height and noise are very reasonable restrictions to impose but I don't get how the length of a coaster can negatively affect a community or be a H&S issue.
     
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    The Ropers have caused a lot of trouble! Remember when Mrs. Roper put a hex on the 15th Earl of Shrewsbury.
     
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    TLARides Well-Known Member

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    Pardon?

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    *shouts* The Ropers have caused a lot of trouble! Remember when Mrs. Roper put a hex on the 15th Earl of Shrewsbury.
    It was a joke comparing Mrs. Roper to the old beggarwoman from hex
    It sounded funny in my head
     
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  6. Pokemaniac

    Pokemaniac Mountain monkey Staff Member Administrator Moderator Social Media Team

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    Well... Alton Towers opened as a theme park in 1980. It is entirely possible, not to say overwhelmingly likely, that the Ropers estate has been around since way before then, same goes for the people who currently live there. They didn't move next to a theme park, the theme park opened next to their house.
     
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    If there is one thing that gets Alton-goons over-excited, its Ropergate.
    But yes, they were there before the park was (not that that excuses their behaviour in any great way)
     
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    Pretty sure that's not a thing? Where'd you hear that?




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    The Ropers, lest we forget, are involved in Churchill China.
    And their particularly noisy factory in Stoke on Trent :p
     
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    ^ But they don't live near the factory, do they?! ;)

    Height and noise are just very normal procedures? But I don't think I've come across any that are completely bizarre.

    I seem to remember one that any of the Alton coasters that approach canopy height of the trees, and therefore may be possible from outside the park, have to be rendered in dark colours to compensate. Hence why Galactica and Rita have dark green/black renders at their highest points.
     
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    Hixee Flojector Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    What's the difference between "render" and "paint"? ;)
     
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    A designer ;)
     
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  13. SimonSays99

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    While the Tornado - Intamin Invert - at Särkeniemmi - as a hight restriction of 2,00 meters the counterpart at Parque de Attraciones de Madrid as a ridiculous height restriction of 1,80 meters. They also have a height restriction for the Maurer X-Car at 2,00 meters - while the ones at Skyline Park and Linnanmaki allow 2,10 meters height.

    So making long story short: Was not allowed to ride the Madrid Tornado due to stupid height restriction...
     
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    Hyde I Lied About My Age! Staff Member Moderator Social Media Team

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    Cedar Fair rain restrictions.

    Any rules regarding assigned seating.
     
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    Damn, that's strict. Just checking their website, it seems that they have moved the restriction up to 187cm, which is still really low for Central/Northern European standards. How tall are you?

    I think I've heard some of the new Wanda parks in China have age restrictions with not allowing any riders on the bigger rides if they are over 50 or so...
     
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    Age restrictions are the dumbest thing ever. I mean, it's not like people above the age of 50 are going to get an instant heart attack by riding a coaster.
     
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    Rain can actually cause damage to the coaster and cause brake downs.
    Assigned seating though, that's just pure stupid. Just let me deside if I want to wait an extra ride or two just to sit in my favorite row...
     
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    The rain rule is actually pretty smart. Why would you run a train on slippery track?

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    Okay, just to clarify. Running a coaster in the rain actually has a pretty slim chance of causing any real damage.

    The biggest risk of the rain itself is that the train will slightly over-speed through the brake runs (as the friction brakes lose some of their effectiveness) and cause the sensors to keep tripping. Magnetic brakes are completely unaffected, as are the friction wheels (well, technically they are affected, but the trains are often moving so slowly that it doesn't have any real effect). It would have very little effect on the train running on the track.

    The biggest risk of running a coaster during a storm is a lightning strike. This won't actually cause any damage to the coaster (they're designed for it, just like buildings are), but it does put riders at risk of being on a coaster which may have a power failure and would require them to be evacuated. Rule of thumb in a thunder storm: stay away from very large conductors.

    @Hyde will be able to confirm this for me, but Cedar Fair's policy takes this to the extreme. They will shut all rides if there's a storm detected within some distance of the park. Which makes sense really, as lightning can strike a few miles from the 'centre' of the storm, however Cedar Fair have set the distance at something quite huge like 20 miles? I think this is what Hyde is referring to.

    A few years ago at Kings Island (2010 CF Live) I recall the rides getting shut down due to a looming storm. The storm was reasonably close, and sure enough there was a lightning strike on Diamondback during their test runs. Trains all then stuck on the lift hills and on the brake runs while they reset the whole thing. It was lucky there weren't any riders on board.
     
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