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Dragon Mountain - is it really 186 feet tall?

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  1. lachlan

    lachlan Well-Known Member

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    RCDB lists Dragon Mountain at MarineLand as 186 feet tall, but I looked at Google Maps and it's built on a hill. None of the track looks high up.

    If it is indeed 186 feet tall, that makes it the tallest (full-circuit) roller coaster in the world until Magnum opened at Cedar Point.

    To anyone that has been on this coaster: is it that high off the ground? I think the park is lying, or maybe 186 feet is the change in elevation?
     
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    Hixee Moderator Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    It's hard to say for sure, but this video also backs up the RCDB stats, and does have a couple of shots that seems to suggest it has a fairly lengthy lift hill!



    Wikipedia also cites the same fact(s) as you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Mountain
     
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    Pokemaniac Mountain monkey Staff Member Administrator Moderator Social Media Team

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    Oh wow. I know it's a cliché at this point, but this has to be the one coaster that looks the most like it was built in RCT3 to me. Long, straightway pieces, a sprawling layout at the edge of the park, helix spam, gratuitous tunnels, overly long trains, one-size stock elements, and even using the terrain to get around height restrictions. It really checks the entire list.
     
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    Hixee Moderator Staff Member Moderator CF Award Winner 2016

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    It's also way bigger than I had always assumed it to be. All I really knew was bowtie and helix, didn't realise it was quite that huge!
     
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    Yep looks just like the coasters I would build. I need to get back into openRCT! Also my computer might be powerful enough to build the huge RCT3 parks that I tried to make 10 years ago.

    It's so weird, as you said the video says 186 feet but it never really leaves the ground from what I can see.
     
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    roomraider Best Topic Starter 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    From what i remember the first drop is something like 70 or 80ft but the height change from the bottom of the lifthill to the top is 186ft.
    its similar i guess to Wild Eagle at Dollywood which has a lift of but a drop of 135ft but a lift hill height change of 210ft.

    The must amusing claim by the park for this ride is the " it is the world's largest non-stop roller coaster"
    The words non stop seem to be important here as The Ultimate covers more ground but has a 2nd lift hill.
     
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    Planning to go to play on that this June ; I'm secretly quite excited by the prospect as I think it has always looked rather fab (rubbish and fab that is)! </goon>
     
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    Even that title ought to go to Steel Dragon 2000. Although if your going by land area I have no idea which is larger.

    That makes more sense
     
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    roomraider Best Topic Starter 2016 CF Award Winner 2016

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    I think in this sense they are talking about the footprint of the ride in acres.
    As seen here it covers a huge area.
    [​IMG]

    Oddly this ride does share something with SD2K though.
    They both use 2 lift chains which swap over halfway up the lift hill. I don't know of any other rides that do this (Although i must admit I have never looked into it in detail)
     
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    This thing goes so slow at times that it might as well be going up another lifthill
     
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    It's been like 5 years since I've been....but it was still stupid fun the last time I went and was oddly smooth, but one bad bang entering the last tunnel. (Also got a train to myself on it, once) the whole park is rather...odd.
     
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    Ditto here, albeit in July.
     
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    It did remind me of the Ultimate with its random ground-level meanderings...
    [​IMG]

    And like the Ultimate, it's worth riding because it's a bit different from anything else, despite not being the greatest ride in the world. As everyone's said, Marineland is an odd park - with a hell of a lot of dead space and walking between attractions. I can't remember anything about height, though it did seem big compared to everything around, aside from the shot towers which were on the top of a rather steep hill.
     
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    It's such a weird, long, odd ride, but it is secretly quite fab.

    The Ultimate isn't a bad comparison really - it's not as intense as that by a long way, but it's not far off it in total WTF stakes.

    Hey @LiveForTheLaunch what do you think of it?
     
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    That photo makes it look just like the Ultimate. One of my favourite roller coasters!
     
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    The same as what you think of Intimidator 305 :) @Ben
     
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    Yes, I’ve been concerned about this. I mean, the man has just lost his life, and though he was a controversial figure, his death is sad.

    However, I’m a selfish bastard and all I can think is “Oh no! I’ll be there in less than two weeks! Stay open at least until then!! Dragon don’t leave me!!” :eek:
     

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