Discussion in 'Roller Coaster Construction' started by GuyWithAStick, Jun 8, 2016.
Oh God. Anything but that.
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I saw some people speculating the use of pronouns may mean it'll be a racing TC like ride.
Personally, I don't think so, it doesn't even seem like it from the structure.
Unfortunately, couldn't get many good pics, least none worthy enough to be posted with all these other great ones. It's really something though, and I thought I saw a possible 4th inversion, there was a long flat stretch of horizontal steel beams, and looked like it was twisting into it. Maybe a stall? I could be totally wrong though
Here's a zoomed out photo for you all!
Assuming the crown of the lift is in a similar place, it looks to me like the maximum height will be about 50% more than the current structure.
I estimate it as 230-240 feet tall (closer to 230 IMO) which means that we are looking at a top speed of ~81 MPH.
That makes sense, considering the first big hill will be providing ejector air. I'm interested in the bunny-hop after the lift, though. Alan is once again showing casual disdain for the laws of physics.
Spent the past day and a half at the Point visiting Emily during CoasterMania and spent the first day alone. I rode pretty much everything I was interested in riding early in the day since the park was dead, so I grabbed a Millennium Force handstamp and walked around the top of the peninsula to get some photos.
Heading back through Area 3 on the Gemini Midway, this will be your first glance at the on-site Jack in the Box they are building in the plot where Mean Streak used to sit before it was torn down.
Got Alan over here loving to manipulate the nature of vector mechanics, putting what should be two small forces together to create one thigh-bruising wallop of negative force here. You'll have some classic second law airtime mixed with some classic centripetal force around that curve, should really throw you.
RMC just throwing two double whatevers in here because they can.
As an avid RMC fanboy, I know how much Alan loves to make his inversions pure zero-g floater bliss while ejecting the hell out of you over hills. This is probably going to feel very floaty and very freaky, I love it!
RMC Mean Streak as seen from Frontiertown
Enough action in park, let's go outside! This was taken in the Cedar Point Shores parking lot walking to Lighthouse Point.
This was a very active construction site and you could hear beeping equipment, hammers, and power tools in full force to get this thing up. Visible near Lighthouse Point is the entrance to the construction site, complete with this fat stack of beautifully machined track.
Classic wooden trusses meets cutting edge manufactured track and it looks perfect together. <3
RMC Mean Streak is behind the trees. Honestly with some of these shots I was getting through the band of forest surrounding the ride, Sasquatch would make a pretty good name if they go with it.
Ledgers waiting for track.
By far my favorite shot of this coaster as of now.
Gorgeous shot of the top hat thing. If that lift is really 218 feet like we think, this is a pretty small thing to be shooting through right out the drop.
Drop ledgers going into place!
The Sasquatch theme would be really cool with it being so close to a campsite, though the teaser campaign seems to suggest a very different theme more similar to the conventional Western theme in Frontiertown.
Twin top hats!
Work on the drop, you can see the two ledgers getting all the attention right now pretty clearly.To me it's still obvious that they aren't exactly vertical. Steep, but not stacked right atop each other.
More goodness from Lighthouse Point!
It looks like a straight up dive off a cliff from out here!
This tight bank is RMC's newest element! It's called "that maneuver when your girlfriend won't get her lazy butt out of bed and you're already ten minutes late so you go full Incredible Hulk and flip the mattress and she just about kills you and makes you sleep in the tub."
(Another record for CP to claim: Most normal element name on an RMC)
I had no idea there was a little dock back behind Lighthouse Point but this is the first place I will go to get a good photo of this thing when it's done! This is my new favorite photo op at the park!
Another decent shot of it! Fun fact: A couple years ago some CF members, me included, played beer pong until 4 am in one of these bungalows.
After cooing over this sexy photo op for a bit, I headed back into the park to meet up with my friend Mary for the end of the day...who just told me to "meet me at Raptor." I could barely get Millennium's belt so the exercise was welcome, but did I really appreciate walking all the way from the very back of the peninsula to Raptor? Not really!
Another angle on the lazy girlfriend tossed from bed element. Notice how only two ledgers are completely horizontal? This thing barely qualifies as a stall in my book, more like a screwy cutback or something.
We ended the day on Maverick, Mary's number one, as the sun set over this modern marvel in the making...
Hello I just joined the site today, and it's mostly because I wanted to share my theory on what's about to happen wit the new Mean Streak at Cedar Point.
A Little history on myself since I'm new here.
*I grew up in East Lansing, Michigan. As anyone from Michigan will tell you, our favorite vacation spot growing up is of course, Cedar Point. I was 6 years old when the Iron Dragon opened and remember it scaring the absolute crap out of me
*I have lived in Los Angeles since graduating university, so I've been here since 2005.
*Me new home park is of course, Six Flags, Magic Mountain.
*I still fly to Ohio every time a new ride opens for a Cedar Point trip
*Cedar Point > Magic Mountain all day everyday
*That said, Magic Mountain is easily my second favorite thrill park
*I've been on over 160 unique coasters in my lifetime.
*Twisted Colossus is my current #1 and Maverick is still my current #2
All of this said: I think what we are looking at here based on the video Cedar Point released TODAY, is the world's very first Triple Track Racing Coaster!
Sure, my theory is likely wrong, but it's a fairly simple one, and I base it on their ridiculous precision with timing. Twisted Colossus is the most unique and exhilarating coaster I've ever been on, but a big part of that is because they somehow managed to time it to race itself on a closed loop track, and it's amazing.
I couldn't figure out why on earth it would take until 2018 to build this thing...but then it struck me...maybe it's because they are building the second circuit AROUND the main circuit AFTER that circuit is complete! What if they are going to build the next part of this dueler AFTERWARDS!? It would run it's own 3 loop circuit around the same structure and all the while be a completely separate "but same" ride?! Hence "THEY'RE coming"!!!!
OBVIOUSLY my theory is 100% incorrect lolololol, but this would be my dream coaster if that's what this turned out to be. The wood is there, the infrastructure is in place, the timetable fits, and most importantly, it's all I pray about every night <3
Anyway, has a great night everybody and nice to meet you all
Tons of good photos, and from angles from which I've not seen the construction site. Thank you.
Do you mean like the "stall" on Wicked Cyclone? I thought that was a fun element.
Haha, I'd imagine that it's because unlike SFMM, Cedar Point has to deal with very harsh winters. Additionally Mean Streak is just...massive, longer than both sides of Twisted Colossus/Colossus combined. Its original design was 3 laps and it looks like they're keeping all three. It's a pretty tight fit in there, I'd be truly shocked if that were true.
Great new photos guys! I'm still leery as to whether those are flat ledgers or remaining steel reinforcements. Do we have any good before and after of that spot?
Park was indeed dead, never in my dreams would I have imagined riding MForce 5 times....during normal hours!
Also amazing pics! How did you get those? I got close as (I thought) I could on foot which wasn't very close at all. Granted I didn't drive around the peninsula and I skipped my boat trip. So we're looking at 4 inversions at least, over 200 feet and around 80 mph, gunna be a long ride. This will be the baddest RMC without doubt
Is it too late to guess what RMC's naming the elements?
I think the girlfriend element will be called a "Step Down 180* Stall".
The first inversion, of course, is "Alan Makes Intamin Sad in the Pants".
I'm weak. This makes everyone else happy in the pants.
Better than any theroy I could come up with.
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Yes, I love that element too! It's pure zero-g floater bliss just like that upwards roll is going to be! However, I don't really think "stall" is the right word for it.
This is what I consider a proper stall. I count roughly 7-8 horizontal ledgers holding you upside down. I always got the vibe that such an element was supposed to feel like an aircraft rolling and killing the engine and falling back to earth to an extent, hence the name.
Here's Wicked Cyclone's stall. Again, I count roughly 3-4 ledgers holding the train at 200 degrees, with drawn out transitions at either end. Definitely shorter than TC's, but still a stall. Not to mention insanely fun!
It's more of a zero-g roll that changes its mind halfway through, plus it looks to exit from a different angle than it entered. Only two ledgers are holding it like this and then it banks back out of it.
^ It's definitely not going to be anything like a real stall. Wicked Cyclone stays upside down longer and it still feels too short.
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I'm holding out hope that it might go bonkers in Lap 3 and have a stall within the support structure
Has Cedar Point actually announced anything besides these teasers, a few photos on Facebook and that stuff?
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I was hoping the same thing. I want lap 3 to just be batsh*t crazy lolol.
I can't explain to you how much I wish this would be the case. I live in Los Angeles and would honestly buy a season pass to CP if that turns out to be true lolol.
yeah even on original MS it was dope even though it was rough and had the absolute sh-t trimmed out of it (really with the swear censoring we're still doing this?)
For reference, Texas Giant closed November 1st 2009, and reopened as NTG April 4th, 2011. 519 days.
Mean Streak closed September 16th 2016. Friday, May 4th 2018 would be 595 days after that.
Sounds about right with winter slowing construction.
Also, while I'm nerding out on timelines, the first teaser video was put out at the beginning of April, then we got another one at the beginning of June... so maybe we'll see something else teased after another 2 months at the beginning of August? They announced Mean Streak was "getting the axe" on August 1st 2016. I'm betting on a full announcement then.
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