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Snoo

The Legend
Since I've never left the States:

Ohio - Columbus (living here helps)
Indiana - Indianapolis
Michigan - Lansing
West Virginia - Charleston
Virginia - Richmond
Pennsylvania - Harrisburg
Connecticut - Hartford
North Carolina - Raleigh
South Carolina - Columbia
Tennessee - Nashville
Georgia - Atlanta
Arkansas - Little Rock
Missouri - Jefferson City
Iowa - Des Moines
Texas - Austin
Arizona - Phoenix
Nevada - Carson City
 

Ketchup

Mega Poster
Just going to say that Hong Kong and Macau aren't countries, they are special administrative regions of China. It's pretty much the same as counting the Isle of Man separately to the UK. I personally wouldn't count Scotland and Wales as separate to the UK even though they are distinct constitute countries either.

By that basis I'm not counting Cardiff!

UK - London
France - Paris
Belgium - Brussels
Netherlands - Amsterdam
Switzerland - Bern
China - Beijing
USA - Washington DC
Turkey - Ankara
Austria - Vienna
Italy - Rome
Vatican City - Vatican City
Estonia - Tallinn
Denmark - Copenhagen
Sweden - Stockholm
Finland - Helsinki

That's 15 out of 23 country credits. If you include Scotland and Wales that total rises to 16 out of 26.

Been to 30 US states but I'm honestly not certain how many US state capitals I've been to as I think I may have slept through some of them!
 

Ben

CF Legend
I have Hong Kong and Macau stamps in my passport, the distinctly different currencies in my currency collection and they have different laws.

Much more of a country than Isle of Man by virtue of being countries.

No debate to be had here.
 

ThomVD

Giga Poster
Netherlands - Amsterdam
Belgium - Brussels
France - Paris
Spain - Madrid
Germany - Berlin
Italy - Rome
Switzerland - Bern
England - London
Sweden - Stockholm <3

Within this month I can add Helsinki and Dublin.
 

gavin

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Ketchup said:
Just going to say that Hong Kong and Macau aren't countries, they are special administrative regions of China.

Yeah, but no. For all intents and purposes, Hong Kong and Macau should be treated as separate countries from China, especially with regards to travel, which is what this topic is about. If they were actual China, you'd be able to pass freely between all three, and you can't. Just popping across the border to Shenzhen requires a visa and immigration faff. You don't have to do that to pass between most European countries.

Everything about them is different from the mainland. Maybe further down the line, when all agreements to keep them separate expire, that will be different, but for now they're really not "China" at all. It's absolutely nothing like the Isle of Man.

Anyway, since I'm here, I'll do my list. Three of these are happening within the next week, but unless there's a plane crash or I die some other way in the next 7 days, they're getting done, so I'll stick them in now.

Morocco: Rabat
Cambodia: Phnom Penh
China: Beijing
Hong Kong: Hong Kong
Indonesia: Jakarta
Israel: Jerusalem
Japan: Tokyo
Jordan: Amman
Laos: Vientiane
Macau: Macau
Malaysia: Kuala Lumpur
Philippines: Manila
Singapore: Singapore
South Korea: Seoul
Taiwan: Taipei
Thailand: Bangkok
Vietnam: Hanoi
Austria: Vienna
Belgium: Brussels
Bosnia and Herzegovina: Sarajevo
Bulgaria: Sofia (next week)
Croatia: Zagreb
Czech Republic: Prague
Denmark: Copenhagen
Estonia: Tallinn
Finland: Helsinki
France: Paris
Greece: Athens
Hungary: Budapest
Ireland: Dublin
Italy: Rome
Latvia: Riga
Liechtenstein: Vaduz
Lithuania: Vilnius
Montenegro: Podgorica
Netherlands: Amsterdam
Portugal: Lisbon
Romania: Bucharest (next week)
Russia: Moscow
San Marino: San Marino
Serbia: Belgrade
Slovakia: Bratislava
Slovenia: Ljubljana
Spain: Madrid
Sweden: Stockholm
Switzerland: Bern
Ukraine: Kiev (tomorrow)
United Kingdom: London
Vatican City: Vatican City
Bahamas: Nassau

Countries that I've been to, but not the capitals:

Germany
Poland
Canada
USA
Australia

Need to get some South America and Africa in my life.
 

jayjay

Giga Poster
Yeah, but no. For all intents and purposes, Hong Kong and Macau should be treated as separate countries from China, especially with regards to travel, which is what this topic is about. If they were actual China, you'd be able to pass freely between all three, and you can't. Just popping across the border to Shenzhen requires a visa and immigration faff. You don't have to do that to pass between most European countries.

Everything about them is different from the mainland. Maybe further down the line, when all agreements to keep them separate expire, that will be different, but for now they're really not "China" at all. It's absolutely nothing like the Isle of Man.

If it's not a correct answer on Pointless, it's not a real country :p

Yeah, I'm not massively well traveled. I've been to London, Dublin, Paris and Helsinki. If I wanted to be desperate, I'd also stick my exchange at Riga airport in there, but that would be silly.
 

Ketchup

Mega Poster
jayjay said:
Yeah, but no. For all intents and purposes, Hong Kong and Macau should be treated as separate countries from China, especially with regards to travel, which is what this topic is about. If they were actual China, you'd be able to pass freely between all three, and you can't. Just popping across the border to Shenzhen requires a visa and immigration faff. You don't have to do that to pass between most European countries.

Everything about them is different from the mainland. Maybe further down the line, when all agreements to keep them separate expire, that will be different, but for now they're really not "China" at all. It's absolutely nothing like the Isle of Man.

If it's not a correct answer on Pointless, it's not a real country :p

What he said!

I guess it's arguing over semantics but from a personal standpoint I'd probably call a country an independent sovereign state which neither Hong Kong or Macau (or Scotland, Wales and England for that matter) are. However I think arguing over something like this is similar to arguing about what exactly constitutes a coaster credit in that many people will have slightly different interpretations. I do concede though that I've not been to either so apart from reading about how different they are I don't know how distinct they are from mainland China.

I do admit that if I had been to either I would probably conveniently change my definition to boost my count. Hopefully I'll make my way to Hong Kong next year and will be able to make a better judgment for myself then!

Anyway while I'm at it, other countries I've been to which I haven't been to the capitals of (because I know that everyone cares):

Russia
Morocco
Botswana
Zambia
South Africa
Costa Rica
Canada
Germany
 

gavin

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It's nothing to do with "boosting a count" or semantics at all.

In pretty much EVERY conceivable way, they're different.

- Completely different currencies
- Completely different immigration policies
- Completely different laws
- Driving on different sides of the road, among other traffic laws
- Different education systems
- Press censorship in China
- Internet sites censored / blocked in China
- Different phone COUNTRY codes

Those drop down country lists online have them listed separately for a reason.

You're from China and want to visit one of those other "Chinese" cities? A city in your own "country"? You can't without permission and permits from the Chinese government - your own government - since they class it as leaving China.

In China and flying to Hong Kong or Macau? You'll be using the international terminal. Why? Because you're crossing an international border.

I'm a Hong Kong resident. I don't even need a passport to go in and out - I can just stick a card in machine and don't even need to see an immigration officer - but I can't visit the city next door without a visa. Not just a passport, which would by itself constitute international travel; a visa.

Visit Hong Kong without going to the mainland and you'd never get any of that. You'd view it as "Chinese" because of the ethnicity of the people and some old temples and stuff. Go just over the border to Shenzhen and it's like another planet.

There are fewer differences between most European countries than there are between Hong Kong/Macau and China.

It's not "semantics"; it's the reality of the situation.

But what would I know; I only live there.
 

caffeine_demon

Strata Poster
Anyway - My list:

London
Paris
Amsterdam
Oslo
Stockholm
Helsinki
Copenhagen
Madrid
Cardiff
Glasgow

and next week the list will include Dublin (Can you guess why I'm going there??)
 

Jake

Strata Poster
Andorra le Vella, Andorra
Vienna, Austria
Brussels, Belgium
Sarajevo, Bosnia And Herzegovina
Sofia, Bulgaria
Beijing, China
Prague, Czech Republic
Copenhagen, Denmark
Cairo, Egypt
Tallinn, Estonia
Helsinki, Finland
Paris, France
Budapest, Hungary
Reykjavik, Iceland
Dublin, Ireland
Rome, Italy
Amman, Jordan
Riga, Latvia
Vaduz, Liechtenstein
Vilnius, Lithuania
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Monaco, Monaco
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Oslo, Norway
Doha, Qatar
Bucharest, Romania
Moscow, Russia
San Marino, San Marino
Belgrade, Serbia
Singapore, Singapore
Bratislava, Slovakia
Ljubljana, Slovenia
Seoul, South Korea
Madrid, Spain
Bangkok, Thailand
Tunis, Tunisia
Kiev, Ukraine
Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
London, United Kingdom
Vatican City, Vatican City


Non-sovereign but still count:

Gibraltar, Gibraltar
Hong Kong, Hong Kong
Douglas, Isle of Man
Macau, Macau





Country visited, but not the capital:

Australia
Cambodia
Canada
Croatia
Cyprus
Germany
Greece
Indonesia
Israel
Luxembourg
Malta
Montenegro
Morocco
Poland
Portugal
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
United States
Vietnam
 

PeskyTrimBrake

Hyper Poster
San Juan, Puerto Rico (my home)
Rome, Italy
London, UK (Connecting Flight)


USA
Providence, Rhode Island
Washington DC, USA
Dallas, Texas (Connecting Flight)
Boston, Massachusetts
Atlanta, Georgia (Connecting Flight)
Indianapolis, Indiana
Denver, Colorado


Yeah...

Edit: This post is a **** mess...
 

caffeine_demon

Strata Poster
caffeine_demon said:
Anyway - My list:

London
Paris
Amsterdam
Oslo
Stockholm
Helsinki
Copenhagen
Madrid
Cardiff
Glasgow

and next week the list will include Dublin (Can you guess why I'm going there??)

"Andorra le Vella, Andorra "

Ahh - forgot that one!

And another couple of dubious creds:
Mahon - Menorca
Santa Cruz - Tenerife
 

Snoo

The Legend
Glennderp said:
San Juan, Puerto Rico (my home)
Rome, Italy
London, UK (Connecting Flight)


USA
Providence, Rhode Island
Washington DC, USA
NYC, New York
Dallas, Texas (Connecting Flight)
Boston, Massachusetts
Atlanta, Georgia (Connecting Flight)
Indianapolis, Indiana
Denver, Colorado


Yeah...

Also.. Albany is the capital of New York, not New York City. I figured you living in a area controlled by the United States that could be a state that you would know that. YOU CALL YOURSELF AN AMERICAN BY DEFINITION IF YOU RESIDE AND/OR ARE BORN IN PR BUT IF YOURE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY NEVERMIND. :D
 

PeskyTrimBrake

Hyper Poster
Snoo said:
Glennderp said:
San Juan, Puerto Rico (my home)
Rome, Italy
London, UK (Connecting Flight)


USA
Providence, Rhode Island
Washington DC, USA
NYC, New York
Dallas, Texas (Connecting Flight)
Boston, Massachusetts
Atlanta, Georgia (Connecting Flight)
Indianapolis, Indiana
Denver, Colorado


Yeah...

Also.. Albany is the capital of New York, not New York City. I figured you living in a area controlled by the United States that could be a state that you would know that. YOU CALL YOURSELF AN AMERICAN BY DEFINITION IF YOU RESIDE AND/OR ARE BORN IN PR BUT IF YOURE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY NEVERMIND. :D

Airhead moment.
Yeah... My post is a mess...

I make a mistake, gets crucified for it. #justCFthings :wink:
 

Snoo

The Legend
Glennderp said:
Snoo said:
Glennderp said:
San Juan, Puerto Rico (my home)
Rome, Italy
London, UK (Connecting Flight)


USA
Providence, Rhode Island
Washington DC, USA
NYC, New York
Dallas, Texas (Connecting Flight)
Boston, Massachusetts
Atlanta, Georgia (Connecting Flight)
Indianapolis, Indiana
Denver, Colorado


Yeah...

Also.. Albany is the capital of New York, not New York City. I figured you living in a area controlled by the United States that could be a state that you would know that. YOU CALL YOURSELF AN AMERICAN BY DEFINITION IF YOU RESIDE AND/OR ARE BORN IN PR BUT IF YOURE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY NEVERMIND. :D

Airhead moment.
Yeah... My post is a mess...

I make a mistake, gets crucified for it. #justCFthings :wink:

That is what you get for living in the Caribbean you lucky bastard. :D
 

Hyde

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Country Capitals:

Washington D.C., USA
London, England
Cairo, Egypt
Jerusalem, Israel
Rome, Italy
Brades, Montserrat
George Town, Grand Cayman Island
Vatican City (It's a City State after all!)

State Capitals:

Phoenix, Arizona
Little Rock, Arkansas
Denver, Colorado
Atlanta, Georgia
Springfield, Illinois
Indianapolis, Indiana
Boston, Massachusetts
Trenton, New Jersey
Raleigh, North Carolina
Columbus, Ohio
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Nashville, Tennessee
Charleston, West Virginia
 
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